Cking, I know certain aircraft move forward without advancing the throttles so is it possible there was some kind of brake problem and the aircraft moved with the engines at idle?

Either way, someone needs their backside kicking!

On a sloping ramp maybe but when it hit the tractor it would have stoped. The tractor was pushed quite a distance before the crew realized there was a problem. If you notice, the groundcrew scatter before the aircraft starts to roll. The aircrew would have to apply quite a bit of power to start the aircraft moving, (called breakaway power) The groundcrew must have heard this and got clear.
The thing that the ground crew did do wrong was not establishing headset contact with the aircrew. On hearing the throttles being advanced a quick “OI!!” would have stopped him!

Rgds Cking

More to the point, what was the damage to the pilots face? If that had happened to me I would have been up the nose gear, in through the lower avionics bay, through the first class, up the stairs into the flight deck and punched him into next week!

Rgds Cking

Red herring, no civilian C-17’s, yet…….;)

Have a herring Newforest;)

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Qatar—Air/Boeing-C-17A-Globemaster/1772637/M/

Rgds Cking

If you had paid to go to the AVP I would have slapped you Neil:D
I am looking forward to seeing the “180” as the EK aircrew call it, on Friday.

Rgds Cking

I’ve had days like that! Pity it’s cost his job though:mad:
A mate of mine was rigging an Airbus door slide once. It was all “Arm, check, disarm, open, check, close. arm, check. disarm, open etc” and he got it wrong and set one off! He was hauled into the office and given his b********g and just escaped getting suspended. He said the worst part about the whole episode was that the rest of his gang called him “Nevil chute” for months! We are a cruel breed in engineering!!!!:D

Rgds Cking

I heard an RB211 backfire at LHR once.

It sounded like the wrath of God!

I’ve had a few surge on me when doing engine runs and it does make you jump a bit for the first few times. The funny thing is just before the engine surges it’s noise and vibration changes. It sort of “Grumbles” so you know you are just about to surge. Usualy this point is just befor the EPR or RPM figure you need to reach to declare the engine serviceable!!!
I would be easing the throttles forward gently to reach a figure so I can feel the changes. Aircrew don’t do that so they won’t get to feel the subtle changes.

Rgds Cking

Wasn’t there a film about this called Blue Ice?

Wasn’t Elizabeth Taylor in it?

Rgds Cking