Hmmm – ‘VM is the only true passenger ‘standard’ preserved I believe.

The RAF examples will be highly ‘gutted’ ex tanker versions, and most (if not all now – are there any ‘Standards’ left?) of the RAF’s are ‘Super’s
I don’t agree they’re better.

To the average “Joe” there is no difference between a pax standard and a pax super, they see a VC-10. It is the same for the Trident, 1a,b,c,d,e 2a,b,c,d 3a,b,etc etc it’s a Trident. You cannot hope to keep examples of every mark and sub mark, perticularly the way the british aircraft industry messed around with it’s aircraft. I do not agree with the scrapping, I am just saying that the loss is not as great as the scrapping of the Hendon Beverley say.
When I said the RAF 10’s were better I ment that they were more relevent to the RAFM and would have been looked after for the last twenty years because they were flyers. Also a few years ago didn’t the director of the RAFM say that they were not going to get an ex-RAF 10 because they had the BA one and they didn’t want to duplicate aircraft? I do remember that there was a bit of an uproar about that then.
The other question that I want to ask is what is going to happen to the Neptune at Cosford? That has no conection with the RAF. The aircraft that were operated by the RAF bore no resembelance to the Dutch example on display(outside) so is that for the chop too? Lets face it an aircraft that spent all its working life at low level over the north sea and then spent twenty years outside proberbly has greater corrosion issues than the B.A. collection!
Please don’t think I am trying to start an argument!. There is enough of that on this forum. I am just trying to add something to the disscussion of a sad event.

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Let me put it this way how many isles has an 763 got ?

Two in one direction and four in another 🙂

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I like it as it is but there should be a “One thread per-airport-per day” rule. As for constuctive critcism of another posters pictures!!!!!! We can’t seem to have a constuctive conversation without it turning into a full scale slanging match! Imagine if somebody DARED to critique somebody elses pictures!!!!
I must admit to falling into the “Cool pics” brigade as I think that if somebody has taken the trouble to take and post pictures somebody should reply. Imagine if they take an interesting picture and didn’t post because he though we were all rude?

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Passengers want to fly direct. It the plane was like one of my golf balls they would only get to their destination after landing in the desert, bouncing off a few trees landing in the water and changing planes twice 🙂

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The No2 engine on both the Tripestar and the 10 were a pain in the A**e to do any maintenance on! Eaven topping the oil up was an epic.
I was involved with a No2 engine change on a Tristar once. It required special docking, a special sling and a crane. It took an entire gang all night just to prepare it to drop! You can have a N01 or 2 down and up in a shift if you put your mind to it! As for doing one down route! They used to two engine ferry them back as a matter of course!
They stripped the normal accessorys (Hyd pump IDG) off the KC-10’s No2 engine and put a second starter and start valve on instead. This improved it’s dispach reliability considerably down route. I think also that the parcel operators have done the same with the DC-10’s.Don’t know for sure though.
It was not for nothing that they were known as “The three headed ulcers”!

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For weeks of moaning about poor photography conditions and boring aircraft, Saturday had two interesting visitors and good weather!!! Were was I? Manning the phones in a windowless office all afternoon!!!!
On another subject I dropped in to see “Trident man” on friday. He is making an excelent job of the Trident. I comented to him that the cockpit was cleaner than most of the aircraft I work on!!!!

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Yes it did apear in the Italian job. There were three of them operating in and around Europe at the time. One crashed into a hillside whilst on a “cow” flight. Don’t know when or where though!

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I to, have misgivings about composite structure repairs, but there again I’m trained in tin and rivet repairs. I wonder if there was the same kind of discussion amongst the wood and fabric guys back in the old days?!!
Don’t worry though Boeing and Airbus know what they are doing, if they don’t as Matthew M hints, there will be plenty of overtime to sort it out!!!

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