A couple of thoughts.
This helo must be in some sort of limited field trials or in limited service if it was available on a few days notice to fly down from Afghanistan to take part in this attempt. Likely not flown over on a C-17 on such short notice is my guess (and only a guess).
Was there more than one of these “modified” H-60’s used in this raid. A lot of the info I have seen said two H-60 types and two CH-47’s. Wonder if there are thoughts on if the Chinooks had any stealth mods?
The US should definitely urge the Pakistanis in no uncertain terms that they need to return the wreckage immediately.
I think what a country like China could learn from wreckage such as this would be materials/metallurgy based. The obvious visual stealth features that anyone can glean from just looking at a photo of a Comanche are well known. RAM coatings, bonded plastics/composites and modern alloys such as they might still exist in the wreckage are the real prize here for a country like China.
my two cents.
Canadians went to the polls on Monday and gave incumbent Prime Minister Steven Harper a majority government after five years of minority status.
As Harper and his government have supported the purchase of 65 JSF’s for the CAF and now with a majority it looks like the Canadian order will be secured at some point in the next year or so, unless cost overruns go way out of control.
Personally I think the Super Hornet is more than enough aircraft for Canada, but the Feds unfortunately don’t agree.
Canadian Armed Forces Sorties to date as of May 1st
CF-188 Hornet 196
CC-150 Polaris 75
CP-140 Aurora 30
A pretty substantial set of numbers for 10 total airframes (6 Hornets, 2 Polaris Tankers and two Aurora MPA’s)
Five Merlins and a Griffon…
What a beautiful sound. The sound of a 1,000 bomber raid with Lancasters and Halifaxes must have been a sound for the ages.
In just a little under two weeks from today Canadians will be going to the polls to elect a Federal government.
Canada’s intention to purchase the F-35 is fast becoming a large political issue in the campaign and with that in mind CPAC (Canada’s equivalent to the American C-SPAN political affairs channel) has produced a one hour documentary called “F-35 – The Politics of Procurement”. It can be viewed on demand here:
The documentary is definitely worth watching for anyone interested in the F-35 and in my opinion it speaks to why its procurement is not only becoming a controversy in Canada but in other nations as well.
As of yesterday the Canadian Armed Forces have carried out the following number of sorties:
CF-18 Hornet Fighter Bomber – 138
CC-150 Polaris Tanker – 55
CP-140 Aurora Maritime Patroller – 22
As of April 10th the Canadian Armed Forces have carried out approximately 143 combat sorties in and around Libya broken down as follows:
CF-188 Hornet – 90
CC-150 Polaris – 39
CP-140 Aurora – 14
courtesy Canadian DND.
The GBU-12 Paveway II has been the primary air to ground store used and unconfirmed reports out of Ottawa are stating that upwards of 30 such weapons have been used to date. The CF-188’s are using Sniper XR pods for self designation.
Iran AF. fighter -the type of aircraft was unknown-crashed in Sarvestan in the Fars province in the south Iran. 2 pilots one of them died, the second was injured.
Either a Su-24 or a F-14 I would guess if two crewman are either dead or injured.
I think this one might have slipped under the radar of most of us.
The Canadian Armed Forces are not only participating in Libyan operations via NATO right now but they are also currently responsible for Air Policing of Icelandic airspace with a detachment of CF-18’s from CFB Cold Lake and a CC-130 tanker from CFB Trenton based out of Keflavik on TDY until early May.
http://www.comfec-cefcom.forces.gc.ca/pa-ap/ops/ignition/index-eng.asp
To have some sort of air policing/QRA capability requires at least 20 front line aircraft. Keeping the bare minimum of two birds ready to go 24/7 means that there are going to be a number of aircraft dedicated to training. Maintenance and attrition also need to be accounted for. Anything less than this is not a real capability IMHO.
Cuba, Serbia, Croatia, Baltic states and any number of other smaller nationds are all kind of in the same boat here. If the decision is to go for the bare minimum capability then there are a number of options that might be affordable/politically acceptable.
Canadian Defense Minister McKay in a daily briefing just confirmed that two CF-18’s and one CC-150 Polaris Tanker participated in another “defensive counter air” mission over Libya.
The CC-150 also provided fuel to other coalition aircraft and not just the CF-18’s.
Naples Italy will be the location of a “National Command Component” Headquarters unit that is deploying now and should be up and running in the coming days to coordinate the Canadian deployment and liase with allies.
Two CF-18’s today were tasked to hit a Libyan Airfield in an offensive counter air mission but they did not drop ordnance as the pilots deemed there to be too high a risk of collateral damage. This sortie just ended within the hour.
Video footage from the CF shows the CF-18’s carrying three AMRAAM’s, two AIM-9’s and a Sniper Pod. There is also video of Paveway II LGB’s being prepped.
Canadian Defense Minister Peter McKay just held a news conference minutes ago where he confirmed the following:
– Canada has flown their first official sorties of the campaign, flying top cover for the fighter bombers of another unnamed allied Air Force. No CF-18 has dropped bombs in anger to date.
– The CAF confirmed that the Hornets were deployed to Italy with kit such as JDAMs, LGB’s, AMRAAM’s and Mavericks available for use.
-Another “Six Pack” expeditionary element of CF-18’s is on 24 hour standby to deploy to the theatre if deemed necessary.
– As of today the US African Command is the primary command element the Canadians are reporting to. That is expected to change in the next days.
– HMCS Charlottetown (a Halifax Class Frigate) is actively taking part in the Naval blockade now underway.
– Two CC-150 Polaris (A310 MRTT) Tankers have been deployed and have flown sorties in support of the No Fly Zone. The Polaris has two under wing probe and drogue refueling pods but no flying boom capability and has somewhat more offload capability than a KC-135R.
I have scoured the web looking for anything confirming if the Libyans have tried to sortie any planes or helos since this intervention started on the weekend.
Anyone know if they have tried anything specific other than the aforementioned ground units? I have seen T-72’s, ZSU-23-4’s and some old BM-21’s in flames but nothing else.
BBC news showed Canadian 18s going through Prestwick. Can our military not host them? No funds, no airfields?
Six CF-18’s left CFB Bagotville Quebec yesterday. They indeed flew through Prestwick and are heading for basing in Italy. The Canadian DND is calling the deployment Operation Libeccio comprises six Hornets and about 200 Canadian Forces personnel, including aircrews and ground technicians from 425 (Tactical Fighter) Squadron from 3 Wing and other locations across Canada.
No word out of Canada yet as to where they will be based. I am guessing Gioia del Colle.
No word either on if Canada will be sending over one or both of its two CC-150 Polaris Tankers (A-310 MRTT). They were deployed yesterday to get the CF-18’s across the pond and then returned to CFB Trenton. Word out of Bagotville is that the support crews will be bringing both air to air and air to ground ordnance. The CF-18’s have been recently updated and are JDAM/AMRAAM/AIM9-X capable. I would not be surprised if a few C-17 sorties take place soon either bringing in support gear, ground crews and ordnance.
The CP-140 Aurora might be useful as well. It has recently gone through a significant avionics upgrade that gives it significant over land surveillance capabilities along with its obvious maritime abilities as a P-3 variant. I live in Toronto and remember during the G-20 meetings last summer seeing a pair of Auroras orbiting over the downtown core of the city using their new kit to keep an eye on protesters.
AWACS, Tankers and even ordnance can be given to The Arab Air Forces who rightly should be on the sharp end of any No Fly Zone.
Tunisia and Egypt have bases. Even Benghazi could be used as either a base or a temporary refeulling/rearming point.
Egypt and the Saudis in particular should man up and take the lead on this. Egypt might but the Saudis me thinks would not like the optics of assisting one Arab dictator fall yet still repress their own people at home. And the Arab League turning into something other than another useless International Talking Shop (which is all it is now) would be a good thing for the overall stability of the region as well.