Like I said, by the time PAF gets 70 odd F-16s, IAF will have 400 odd Su-30MKIs and MRCAs plus 70 odd MiG-29s and IN’s 24 MiG-29Ks.
The MiG-21 Bisons and LCAs can handle the FC-1.
The gap can never be closed.
Sure, Pakistan can spend $1000 trillion in the next few years. And if not the Chinese and the Saudis will give them $$ in addition to the Americans.
And Arshad, the JSF mention was by your compatriot here, the same genius who wants to lauch preemptive attacks on India with F-16s that are still to be ordered.
Pakistan is attempting to do this in the JF-17 project. Unfortunately we have to also protect our children as well, you may not understand that….
How? By launching preemptive attacks with undelivered planes? 😀
But Harry,
If they can get JSFs as per YasserGriffin, why not Block 90 F-16s? 😀 Say F-16Ps.
Oh mercy mercy mercy 😀
Flex
If the relationship with the US continues to improve at the rate it is recently then there is no reason why we cant participate in the JSF programme…..
OMG. 




flex,
Don’t try convincing Griffins aka Yasser. Read his gems above and understand that he is already planning a preemptive strike on India with his PAF uncle and the F-16s that are yet to be built. 😀
Rational arguments won’t work with this bunch.
Who’s dreaming Yasser aka Khyali Ghursawar?
Of course in 2-3 years the F-16As and F-7PGS will be replaced by 150 of JF-17s with SD-10 and sidewinders
so these may be escorting any strikes, with the induction of teh JF-17 we dont need single seat F-16Cs, only two seater Ds.
The only problem I see slowing this expansion is trying to train up 400-500 D pilots and WSOs, but the PAF should be able to handle this
once we have 150 JF-17s and 100 F-16Ds, then we should seriously consider a massive pre emptive strike on all Indian air bases (if talks fail) in order to finally liberate Kashmir.
Yassr Griffins,
We know your wet dream ability. Here’s what you said
Imagine any strike mission into India
4 F-16Ds with AMRAAMs, JDAMS and HARMS
4 F-16As or F-7PGs with SidewindersThe Ds and A will be informed of IAF fighters by AWACs, the Ds will loose off AMRAAMs from afar with the single seat As then taking them on at close range with sidewinders
all the while the Ds are no jamming Indian radars and signals while launching HARMS at them
after this progressing onto their targets of Indian airfields and drop JDAMS neutralising the airfields
on the return journey the Ds will act as their own self defence with with wingtip AIM-9Ms
with 100 Ds we can put about 20 such strike packages into the air at the same time in one single go
100 F-16Ds
30 F-16AS + 75 F-7PGswill give the capability to put uop about
80 F-16Ds
20 F-16As
60 F-7PGsinto the air at one time
thats will be enough to wipe out the entire IAF in the West should we decide (like in 1965) to strike first
😀 😀
Okay, so Yasser, you do agree that Times of India is a reliable news paper then? 😀
I’ll keep that in mind as you post news here (before you are banned again) and in Pakdef along with pics of your fat ugly mamoo. 😀
India has a requirement for 25 MPAs. But I guess you don’t know much.
BTW, you seem to forget that there is a big world of defense contractors outside the US. The US has delivered the items India ordered. Maybe its me, but you cannot expect to get something that hasn’t been ordered – usually.:D IAF can pick and choose any supplier in the world for any technology it wants to get. And BTW, stop dreaming of dorsal spines for PAF F-16s. You may get the standard Block 52s if Mushy is alive in the next 10 years and keeps dismantling the nuclear program as per US demands. 😀 Did you read the report where it says PAF’s F-16 orders are going to be be over 10 years? Time to dry your chaddy? 😀
What a joker you are Yasser. And a flamer too, but posting naval items here just to show your ignorance and elicit responses before you are banned again.
Lolz. That’s what got you banned. Fc-1 is better than F-22 etc. etc. Your time is up.
This is 3 year old story of M2K-5 not the M2K-9. so basically you are getting F-16MLU level aircraft for that price.
And that’s 3 years ago. IAF now has more choices before it including F-16 Block 60 plus plus 🙂 and F/A-18 E/Fs 😉 and the government just saw Pakistan getting its payment for services, so more funds can be easily made available if needed. We will soon see you squirm as IAF gets M2K-5Mk2s or Rafales or Super Hornets :diablo:
Either way, IAF will have 400 planes all superior to the few F-16 Blk 52s that Pakistan may get if it does a lot of things for the next 3-4 years.
Lolz. Your own story says 100 planes with license to export for $7 B, meaning that $9 B could adequately cover 126 planes with a license to export.
When you get into a hole, stop digging. :dev2:
Yes, reports you like are substance and those that bust your BS are not without substance. Ever wonder why you were banned? This thing you are doing is called trolling.
Who’s “debating” with you Yahoo? I’m a regular on this forum for 3 years when this forum changed sites many times.
You are a clown who posts nonsense and gets banned but still come back for more thrashing.
Anyway it wasn’t a ToI report it is http://www.defenceindia.com/17-feb-2k3/navy.html
It is $4 Bil 😀
Now for $9 Bil for planes alone, India can get anything it wants. Maybe you are thinking about a country that is dependent on foreign aid.
So what happened to your theories of F-18E/F ? or they were just wet dreams. The same is true for Rafale, Gripen and F-16E.
Only older block F-16, M2K and MIG-29 are option(and there is big IF when it is going to be signed)
M2K5 at best(by the time old M2K is upgraded there will be no airframe life left behind in them). even M2K9 is more expensive than F-16E. Even M2K9 is out of option. I think at the end only MIG-29 will be left behind.
dude, the F/A 18s have just entered the bidding process. The above is what the IAF wants. If Boeing offers an attactive package for the Super Hornets then it will be a political decision to buy it.
And you are such a joker to say IAF “cannot afford” M-2K9s with a budget for $9 Billion for 126 jets or close to $75 billion per unit. Don’t they teach you some basic math at GIKI?
Either way, IAF will have about 400 jets that are better than F-16 C/D which MAY be armed with a few AMRAAMs and which may arrive if the US feels Pakistan’s cooperation is good enough to warrant it in 3-4 years time.
Sheesh. I don’t know how shameless one has to be to keep releasing BS after being banned a dozen times. :rolleyes: