^^ Laugh all you want buddy but never doubt my sources again.

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Pakistan will not allow its territory for an attack against a peaceful country like Iran.

Sure 🙂 Just like Pakistan did not allow its territory for an attack against peaceful Afghanistan :diablo:

Pakistan successfully test fires long range missile Shaheen 2 (Hatf VI)

Is this a photocopy of some NK DingDong or some Chinese missile?

Ghauri = NoDong

Shaheen-1 = Chinese M-9 or DF-18

Shaheen-2 = Chinese M-18

Based on whatever little info avaialble to date, Agni-III has much different subsystems than Agni-I and II so it does take time to revalidate them from scratch. There is also new technology involved here like ABM decoys to provide an assured second strike capability. These things take time and its better to do them right than fast.

Besides, India’s missile testing goes based on program and strategic needs and is seldom used for diplomatic/political signaling or other purposes. So Agni-III will happen when the developers get it right.

Quoting Golden Arrow : “A Mig 27M that crashed because of Engine flameout, a MiG 21 that was shot down (both on May 27)”

Make up your mind.

Back to topic now.

I meant to say Nachiketa’s MiG-27. Everyone knows he flew a MiG-27.

PAF Air Commodore Kaiser Tufail has a website dedicated to PAF/IAF losses.

http://www.pafcombat.com/combat-losses/iaf-siachen-kargil.htm

He says clearly that Flt.Lt. Nachiketa’s MiG-27 was not shot down but flamed out. A PAF senior officer has no reason to not award a kill to Pakistan if it were true.

That settles the story. No Anza, no janaza. End of discussion.

In Kargil, Indian forces lost 3 aircrafts in total. A Mig 27M that crashed because of Engine flameout, a MiG 21 that was shot down (both on May 27) and a Mi-17 Helicopter which was also shot down (on May 28). An IAF Canberra recce plane was also damaged by ground fire.

See: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/war/kargil-99.htm for an authoritative independent summary.

All the shoot downs and damage was done by Stingers and not Anzas. Pakistan had a vested interest to add on to their lies on Kargil about denying Stinger involvement because it would bring more pressure from the US about using their weapons in a reckless provocation of India.

Another summary by the US Naval Postgraduate School’s Center for Contemporary Conflict also confirms the use of Stingers. The NPS’ book of essays of military and strategic analyses of Kargil by US,Indian and Pak experts is due in a month or so. I believe Col. Jack Gill of the US National Defense University is writing the military/tactical analysis of the fighting. We should get more details from him.

So what is friday times credibility? and how world bank can calculate GDP. does world bank has statistician sitting in every government office?
regarding China there is only beliefs not facts.

You – talking about credibility?

And anyone who questions the World Bank’s ability to calculate country’s GDP is a clown of the nth order.

how you come up with 6% GDP figure for Pak and china? than it will be atleast $90B for China and $6b for Pak which is not the case.

Not when you use the real GDP instead of the cooked up numbers presented by both governments.

For Pakistan, last year’s budget was Rs 192 Billion. But Pak experts noted that if you add defense pension and nuclear weapons grants, it comes to Rs. 300 Billion for 2004-05 or about $5.1 Billion at current conversion rates. The trailing 2004 GDP was $68.8 Billion at 2004 dollar levels according to World Bank. The ratio is 7.4% 🙂

No one believes the official BS numbers the Chicoms give out. China’s real defense budget for 2003 is estimated to be over $66 Billion. The trailing GDP for that period was $1.2 trillion. The ratio comes out to 5.4% 🙂