My last post on this topic:

Fact – 2 – no weapons sales have been blocked so far by any ammendment

No one tried to block specific weapons sales so far that are directly related to the War on Terror.

Fact – 3 I am well aware of the meaning of bipartisan, it may shock you to discover that even democrats put US National interests above supporting teh Indian lobby, although this may not be to your liking

Sure, but why would they pass the above laws if they did not think it was in American interests? 😉

Fact -4 What sale has India blocked!? None, dude, AH-1s, P-3CS and TPS-77s are already in the pipeline and are more advanced then any similar systems in Indian service, why have these not been blocked!?

Indian lobby hasn;t tried to block anything other than the F-16s. As to the Vipers, the results speak for themselves. BTW, the bolded part is a bogus claim of yours that has been busted so many times on other threads by so many different people.

I’m done with this topic.

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Yes, the pro – Indian lobby will try and block the F-16s but they have hard no sucess in passing any Pak8istani legislation for years now, they have also not stopped the vast amounts of economic and military aid, if Dubya asks the republicans and some democrats that F-16s deliveries are imporant to enhence US interests, then I expect the majority to vote for US interests, not Indian ones…..

Also, the awarding of Major Non NATO ally status means (until this status is revoked) Pakistan will not face any weapons sanctions…

Kindly do a check on the facts.

Fact 1 – Pakistan used U.S supplied C-130s for picking up Ghauris from North Korea

Fact 2 – Your claim that the “pro-Indian lobby” has had “no success” in passing legislations is also false.

Fact 3 – The F-16s are considered nuclear weapons delivery platforms and will come under the purview of the above legislation, which has equal number of Republicans and Democrats supporting it. Hint – look up the word “bipartisan.”

Fact 4 – MNNA and sanctions don’t come into picture here. Sanctions are used AFTER a sale is made. The key here is the blocking of a sale itself 😉

Is that enough?

As someone with firsthand knowledge of U.S Congressional matters, I’m sure that something big will have to happen before Congress clears the F-16s.

There is pending legislation within Congress, sponsored by Congressman Tom Lantos and supported by top Republicans and Democrats. This bill is titled “Nuclear Black-Market Elimination Act” of 2004. Those interested in the full text can look up http://thomas.loc.gov (Bill# – HR 1965 IH). It has 5 sections that deal specifically with Pakistan. Two of which say:

SEC. 208. LIMITATION ON AIRCRAFT TRANSFERS.

Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the United States may not transfer any excess defense article that is an aircraft to any country that has not provided written assurances to the United States that it will support and assist efforts by the United States to interdict items of proliferation concern.

TITLE III–ROLLBACK OF KHAN NUCLEAR PROLIFERATION NETWORK

SEC. 301. COOPERATION OF PAKISTAN.

(a) Limitation- Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the President may not provide, in any fiscal year, more than 75 percent of United States assistance to Pakistan unless the President determines and certifies to the appropriate congressional committees that Pakistan–

(1) has verifiably halted any cooperation with any state in the development of nuclear or missile technology, material, or equipment, or any other technology, material, or equipment that is useful for the development of weapons of mass destruction, including exports of such technology, material, or equipment; and

(2) is fully sharing with the United States all information relevant to the A.Q. Khan proliferation network, and has provided full access to A.Q. Khan and his associates and any documentation, declarations, affidavits, or other material that bears upon their proliferation network activities and contacts.

(b) Waiver-

(1) AUTHORITY- The President may waive the requirements of subsection (a) in a fiscal year if–

(A) the President has certified to the appropriate congressional committees that–

(i) the waiver is in the vital interest of the national security of the United States;

(ii) the waiver will promote Pakistan’s cooperation in achieving the conditions set forth in paragraphs (1) and (2) of subsection (a); and

(iii) Pakistan’s lack of cooperation is not significantly hindering efforts of the United States to investigate and eliminate the Khan proliferation network and any successor networks; and

(B) 30 days have elapsed since making the certification under subparagraph (A).

(2) BRIEFING- Within 5 days after making a certification under paragraph (1), the Secretary of State shall brief the appropriate congressional committees on the degree to which Pakistan has or has not satisfied the conditions set forth in paragraphs (1) and (2) of subsection (a)(1).

(3) LIMITATION- The waiver authority under paragraph (1) may not be exercised in two successive fiscal years.

This is likely to be passed unanimously, with bipartisan support. So unless Pakistan gives IAEA and U.S direct access to A.Q.Khan, chances of offensive military material going to Pak look bleak. In addition, the lawmakers have clearly targeted Aircrafts (hint F-16s 😉 ) in this bill.

In other words – Pakistan can surely get materials that are clearly directly related to the war on terror – Helos, Kevlar helmets, flak jackets etc. But as to offensive equipment or big ticket items. Not so fast…

I can verify the source of the info….as it came from me! :diablo:

Can you prove that “you” are yourself 😀 :p

Just kidding 🙂