The point of my above post is that at a macro level, state debt is somewhat like individual’s debt. Any country simply cannot keep buying things after taking loans with the argument that it’s all on credit. For an individual with a heallthy salary and annual raises it is still impossible to take loans and make payments after a certain point. Similarly for a nation, after some point, even if your economy is growing decently – you cannot keep taking loans and end up with debt servicing eating up more and more of your budget. While the US may give cheap development loans, along with the multilateral agencies, the military loans have serious interest rates. At some point the IMFs and the WBs will ask you to stop buying big screen TVs and come pleading for loans for food.
Given that the P-3C deal by itself takes out close to 80% of the US military grant and the under the table grants come to a few hundred million net per year, people have to mind this before talking about PAF buying Rafales or M2Ks.
The baksheesh economy cannot last forever. It needs responsible management.
Since M2Ks and various assorted purchase plans for Pakistan have been bandied about, I feel that the following report on Pakistan’s borrowing in the last few years is very relevant. I request the admins to please allow this.
http://nation.com.pk/daily/may-2005/16/index5.php
Pakistan obtained $10b foreign loans
By Javed Mahmood
LAHORE – Pakistan has obtained about $10 billion worth foreign loans in last four and a half years, The Nation learnt on Sunday.
Besides the loans, the country raised $1.10 billion debt from the international financial markets by offering Euro and ‘Sukuk’ bonds in the last couple of years.
Data collected by The Nation revealed that Pakistan obtained $1.60 billion foreign loans in 2000-01, $2.316 billion in 2001-02, $1.55 billion in 2002-03, $1.242 billion in 2003-04 and $2 billion in July-December period of 2004-05.
Meanwhile, the government also introduced Euro bonds worth $500 million and Sukuk bonds amounting to $600 million in international market.
The inflow of foreign loans, obtained by Shaukat Aziz-led economic team, belie the government claims that it has forsaken begging bowl and reduced reliance on external borrowings. Contrarily, the Kashkol (Begging bowl) 😮 😉 has been extended to raise more and more foreign loans during the last few years.The government in December last year returned last two tranches of Poverty Reduction and Growth Facility (PRGF) to the International Monetary Fund (IMF).
This exercise made the government to indulge in hollow sloganeering that dependence on foreign loans has been given up and that it is in a position to survive without foreign loans.
However, the federal government claims nosedived when it rushed to the World Bank and the Asian Development Bank to obtain more loans to support foreign exchange reserves, facing pressure due to widening trade imbalance, stabilise rupee against dollar and pay the rising import bill.
The Nation learnt that government officials held frequent meetings with the said two donor agencies, which enabled it to disburse about $2 billion in July to December this fiscal.
The huge disbursement of foreign loans in six months of this financial year seems a new record because, in the past, the annual disbursement never exceeded $2 billion mark.
Official sources say that in 2004-05, the total lending of the donors to Pakistan might exceed $3 billion as the WB and ADB have not only enhanced the size of lending, but also expedited the disbursements.
Interestingly, in July to December this fiscal the total foreign debt of Pakistan increased by $1.45 billion from $35.25 billion in 2003-04 to $36.70 billion, mainly due to federal government’s policy to obtain more and more loans.
The burden of foreign loans on Pakistan is expected to further increase in next three years as the World Bank and the Asian Development Bank have doubled the annual lending to Pakistan under the new three-year programme on the request of the federal government, sources maintained.
Harry, the days of India being treated down at Pakistan’s level are over. But the fact remains that a formerly bankrupt man with a new sugardaddy is still cashworthy. If India keeps pissing France off by not buying Airbus, delaying Scorpenes, dabbling with buying American jets etc. there is no stopping France to make a quick buck by selling to Pak.
BTW, if France does sell something to Pakistan, it has to be paid in real money under stricter terms, not with the Baksheesh and the sweet loans that Uncle gives his gopher of the day.
Actually that was the pilot throwing a shoe bomb 😀
Actually, the plan is to fit the Popeye onto all the 3 main platforms. The Popeye is part of an idea to convert the Mig-29s into multirole platforms. The testing is still going on.
There’s nothing to stop France from selling anything to Pakistan. Let’s get real.
The problem for Pakistan with buying from any place other than te US is that they are dependent on US baksheesh.
So the mainstay of PAF will rely on illegal transfers or an unproven clone to power their future mainstay fighter. Excellent!
SOC,
The PAC dudes were saying that is was going to be RD-93.
Gee I wonder why Jane’s did not see the opening of the factory in Kamra as conclusive proof that the engine problem is solved. :rolleyes:
BTW, I got word today that AIM-120s will be approved for Pakistan either as part of the F-16 deal or separately.
That’s just a copy of a report in this week’s Flt International.
Why take all that trouble?
Does anyone know if the Airforces version of the Prithvi is Fired from a Aircraft ?
It is not. IAF Prithvi is an SSM.
I don know why it is so hard to believe serial production of JF-17 will be flying with RD-93? :confused:
didn’t you say before that it would be the WS-13? Why are you changing the tracks?
The only thing Mr. Latif “confirmed” is that Russia’s contract with China is intact. If the contract says that there should not be any reexport to Pak, it means that PAC is dependent on China breaking its contract rules with Russia to deliver the engines to PAC.
Very sweet indeed.