Looks like some kind of CBU….
hmm..if you think its about the sun..then you surely need to understand a thing or two about these guys and their fast jets..;)
I fully understand that. The sun is a valid point though!
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Ahh the aviator glasses.The pilots (irrespective of their nationalities) dont seem to be fed up with wearing those do they..
If you were in the Nevada sun it would make sense to keep them on..
none of these seem to be the Block 52s..are they the MLU’ed F-16s ?
No
Block 52s are in build up and MLUs not delivered yet. These are standard F-16Bs.
PAF F-16Bs air refuelling over Atlantic on way to Nellis.
Note that now PAF pilots seem to be proficient in Boom (KC-135) as well as Hose and Drogue refuelling (IL-76 tanker). Also note PAF will be participating in Green Flag after Red Flag, this could be why all fighters are two seaters.
PAF at Nellis for Red Flag. Pics courtesy USAF.
So you will have a source for ‘authorities’ ‘apparantly’ deciding this? Or have you just made it up?
Dont you know just how “clever” this guy is? :diablo:
no idea
Thanks. Aren’t those four other P-3Cs the ones with the Hawkeye AWACS package?
No, all are MPAs.
As far as I am aware PN did not go through with P-3 AWACs offer. Dont blame them either as Erieye has good over water capability and the last thing a country like Pakistan needs is 3 different AWACs systems.
Naval aviation is going through a massive and interesting change right now in Pakistan.
Currently Maritime strike is handled by 8 Sqd “Haiders” of Pakistan Air Force using approx 12 Exocet armed Mirages.
PN has 4 Atalntics capable of firing Exocets too.
However things are changing.
PN is currently building up to a strength of 10 upgraded P-3Cs.
6 have been delivered and 4 more are currently being worked on in the US.
These will obviously handle strike using Harpoon II
This will enable all Atlantics to be retired and give PN a strong Maritime Patrol capability
PAF is currently planning to replace all Mirages and F-7s with JF-17. However I am unsure if they plan to dedicate a JF-17 unit for Maritime strike.
Finally PAFs new Block 52s are based with Southern Command near the coast at Jacabobad. It is possible they may fly a few maritime missions as well.
2 JF-17s and a PAF C-130 landed at Farnborough yesterday! 😀
Looking forward to touching JF-17.
Going on Public day via train from Waterloo
There is little to IP rights for unaligned nations. The only thread of essence to the claim about some sort of IP rights is that they purchase engines directly from Russia therefore could suffer sanctions. But it looks like Russia is happy selling engines to the Chinese regardless of the current situation. Russia doesn’t seem to feel threatened by Chinese engineers offering their services abroad to support Russian-built Su-27’s, nor by China trying to indigenous develop their own Al-31 class engine. Nope, I think the Russians realize the craptastic quality of their competition and are feeling pretty good about their products & services in comparison.
Feeling pretty good hey?
Then why are MIG and Sukohi begging the Russian government to ban engine sales to China?
In your determination to mock China’s potential you seem to overlook the fact that they are gaining a larger and larger slice of the fighter/trainer market place.
This increase in share will not come at the expense of advanced western aircraft but at the expense of Russian planes.
So next time keep the “craptastic” remarks to yourself unless you really know what you are talking about.
I’m curious why you want to make a comparison using 1982 dollars? Can you explain what you are trying to show? But if you want to see what $60m is in 1982 dollars, then it is $26.54m.
If a NATO partner wants to be tightly integrated in coalition operations, then it would be a good idea to buy the F-35. A non-US buyer pays significantly less for the F-35 than the US taxpayer will simply because, depending upon their tier, it pays little or nothing for the cost of developing the aircraft. A per unit cost might be: (URF (~60m 2010USD) + nation specific avionics/equipment + nation specific weapons integration + FMS management fee.) This does not include the costs needed to field any new aircraft: specialized in-country support and repair equipment and facilities, perhaps simulators, and misc. overhead.
Hang on,Gripens and Thyphoons have been designed to be integrated into NATO ops from the get go.Same comms,weapons, etc.
You do not need F-35 to fight in a NATO coalition, this has already been proven. That is a total non-argument.something out of a LMTAS brouchure….
Even if they don’t need a first day of war strike capability, you certainly don’t want to have to face the prospect of defending against a VLO aircraft, in a non-VLO aircraft.
True,but some countries do not perceive they may have to do this,or even if they do they have reasoned they simply will/cant pay for the F-35.