Not ignoring time Swerve. Its just you only now introduced that caveat. In “time” eventually everything will be retired, so what is the point?

Safe to say Saudi C/D Eagles are going nowhere “any time soon”…..

But the Saudis are getting a high/high mixture.

What extra Typhoons? 72 is the number ordered so far. Also, the F-15 C/Ds will be retired. They’re the oldest aircraft in the inventory.

I did say IF in case you missed that on the extra Typhoons. I know another 72 is being bandied around in the press.

Also, any real source for the retirement of the C/D Eagles?

In fact, the 462 JHMCS order leads me to believe that the AIM9Xs and helmets can also be for the C/Ds. Even if you divide the number by 2 (for the two seater Es) you still have alot left over

AESA and AMRAAM C7 is good.

LANTRIN and no Sniper pod seems strange, maybe Israeli pressure.

Anyone know the difference between a Saudi F-15S and the F-15SA? Just the radar?

Little knowledge a dangerous thing hey….

The AR is at least 30 years younger then the Viraat. A completely different generation in terms of endurence, radar and weapons systems.

Viraat has been in dock for what, 5 out of the past 10 years?

Also, what radar and missiles? Harrier GR9s fly off the thing, not Sea Harriers, these were retired years ago. They do not have any radar or long range AAMs.

Well according to some interesting people LCA is really advanced than another fighter it is often compared to.

http://livefist.blogspot.com/2010/10/jf-17-not-as-advanced-as-lca-but-it-can.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+blogspot%2FUQMw+%28LiveFist+-+The+Best+of+Indian+Defence%29

Wow, talk about too little knowledge being a dangerous thing….

Nawaz Sharif’s public statments make George W look positively intellectual…

You mean me…?:D

Because Italy itself actually plans a massive (and unrealistic) buy of F35A to replace Tornado and AMX, and as many as possibly 65 F35B to replace the Navy’s Harriers and give the air force a jump jet force as well.

A fleet of just Typhoon and F35 (either B and C, or B, or C) was the UK’s plan from the very first moment, so it is nothing new either.

No, the Tornado IDS fleet was due to be replaced by a seperate system orginally.

Only Italy had this a an orginal plan.

What kind of silly explanation is that ? I can agree Gripen may be aerodynamically better than the Tejas and hence have better performance but to say that the specs of Gripen is a closely guarded secret is laughable.

Do you think it will have a chance in an order like the MRCA if they do not reveal the specs ? They are offering ToT for nuts and bolts and radar even and would hide the real specs ?

Believe it or not, there is alot of military info out there that is not available on Google. Shocking I know…..

Your total include pre-production and text frames that may never enter service and 20 planes that have not been ordered yet.

Suppose my version of “gathering steam” is different to yours.