Greenday1Please dont take this the wrong way, but can anyone tell me if the LCA will make it to frontline service? Is the initial IAF order the only order they will make?
Greenday1Great piece of footage from 1965 war. PAF pilots being interviewed by British Reporter. First guy being interviewed is the legendry “Nosey” Haider.
ENJOY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFHlzP69n9c&mode=related&search
sorry, link was initially incorrect, its now the right one!
Greenday1Greenday could you please answer my question!!
Calm down. If I dont know the answer or dont want to give an answer then I apologise in adavnce.
Greenday1Does anyone know if the F-10A is significantly different from J-10 or is it just PAF designation for same aircraft!?
Greenday1WASHINGTON, Oct 1: Pakistan and the US have finalised the F-16 deal after resolving their differences over airspace and technology swapping restrictions Washington had placed earlier, diplomatic sources told Dawn.
The letter of offer and acceptance was signed in Islamabad on Saturday. Sept 30 was the last date for final acceptance of the US offer of March 25, 2005, when the Bush administration announced its decision to sell F-16 aircraft to Pakistan.
“Under the deal, even a day’s delay could have caused an increase of more than $140 million in the price,” said a diplomatic source.
The source said that there were also some differences on the money Pakistan is required to pay in advance. “All the differences, on payment installations, on technical restrictions, have been resolved to satisfactory level,” he said.
Asked to define the level of satisfaction, the source said: “Both sides had to accommodate each other before they reached an understanding.”
The deal is part of a $5 billion arms package for Pakistan which includes F-16 fighter jets and an assortment of air and ground weaponry.
The Bush administration has received congressional approval for selling 18 new F-16 jets to Pakistan. The deal also allows Pakistan to buy an additional 18 new or old F-16s.
In July, the US Defence Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress that the F-16s would come with 200 Sidewinder and 500 AIM-120C5 air-to-air missiles plus 800 general purpose 2,000 and 500-pound bombs.
Greenday1From: jang.com.pk
‘IAF may lose out to PAF’
Updated at 0545 PST
MUMBAI: A crisis has been brewing in the Indian Air Force and it’s about to blow up in the face of the government. The Indian Air Force (IAF) top brass has informed the Union Government that if corrective measures are not taken immediately, India will lose its air superiority over Pakistan.
“Unless immediate steps are taken to arrest the reduction in Indian Air Force’s force levels, the nation will for the first time in its history, lose the conventional military edge over Pakistan.”
This is a what the three-page letter of warning, written by Air Chief Marshall Tyagi to Defence Minister Pranab Mukherjee, says.
A copy of the letter, which has raised serious concerns over the declining combat force level of the IAF, is available with CNN-IBN.
In his letter, the Air Chief Marshall writes, “Pakistan Air Force (PAF) is being beefed up with 44 F16s from America. They have a clearly defined goal of attaining parity with the IAF. With China supplying J 10 and JF 17 aircraft (fitted with Russian engines), PAF force levels of combat squadron will increase.”
“Unless steps are taken to move ahead with procurement, the IAF’s combat strength will deplete to a level, which would entirely neutralise the conventional superiority held by IAF since our Independence. PAF will have 19 to 26 squadrons by 2011-12, while the IAF could reduce to 26.5 by 2015.”
Greenday1Eleven, twelve, almost sent my ship to hell! :diablo:
NEW DELHI: From the skies to the high seas. Just like the so-called “near-miss” between a civilian airliner and two Sukhoi-30MKI fighters near Rajkot on September 21, it has now come to light that another disaster in the form of a head-on collision between a warship and a merchant vessel was averted near Mumbai on Monday.
The merchant vessel, MV Kity, was on passage to Colombo when it sustained “a glancing blow” from a guided-missile frigate of the Navy, the 2,800-tonne INS Dunagiri, around 30 nautical miles off Mumbai port on Monday night.
“The warship was manoeuvering to avoid some fishing vessels when the mishap took place. Fortunately, no significant damage or injury was suffered by either ship. A collision could have led to loss of human lives, apart from a huge ecological disaster in terms of an oil spill,” said a source.
While MV Kity has since proceeded towards its destination, the Navy has ordered a Board of Inquiry (BoI) to ascertain the exact reason behind the incident.
It may be recalled that the Navy’s 450-tonne missile corvette INS Prahar had sunk in the Arabian Sea after colliding with the 29,000-tonne merchant vessel MV Rajiv Gandhi off the Goa coast in April.
Greenday1Greenday1
The news about Sea King is dated March 2004. The grounded choppers were because of sanctions after Nuclear test. UK refused to supply parts.The same reason why Pakistani P-3C and other western choppers,aircraft were grounded.
Well, firstly, the date was not given on the orginal post by the contributor, and secondly, 2004 was 3 years after sanctions were lifted.
Greenday1Ok, will do moderately……. 😀
No bulbs were harmed in the making of this post.
60% unavailability!?
If thats the Sea King fleet, what about the rest of IN/IAF/IA chopper fleet?
Thats an appalling servicability record. There should be plenty of Sea King spares flaoting around. What gives!?
Greenday1Do you have trouble reading or do you like others to spell it out for you?
Please spell it out for me. The article seems to indicate that 7 Sea Kings have been out of service. Please enlighten me.
Greenday1AgustaWestland Awarded Indian Navy Sea King Recovery Contract
AgustaWestland, a Finmeccanica Company, is pleased to announce that it has been awarded a contract by the Indian Navy to return to service seven Sea King Mk 42B helicopters. Work on the contract will commence immediately with AgustaWestland providing a specialist team that will work with personnel from the Indian aerospace industry to undertake the recovery programme.
Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) will undertake the repair and overhaul of “rotable” items including the transmission and rotor heads in support of this contract. In March 2004 AgustaWestland signed a contract with HAL to enable it to perform indigenous Sea King repair and overhaul work in support of the Indian Navy Sea King fleet.
Bert Brookes, AgustaWestand UK`s Customer Support Director, said “We are delighted to have agreed this contract with the Indian Navy who are the largest export customer for our Sea King helicopters. The contract will ensure that seven existing airframes will be returned to service enabling the Indian Navy to achieve increased numbers at sea. This contract will aid AgustaWestland to further develop its business links with the Indian aerospace industry and will result in additional work for HAL’s Sea King repair and overhaul facility.”
The Indian Navy has received a substantial number of AgustaWestland Sea King helicopters including advanced Sea King Mk.42B and Mk.42C variants which were delivered in the late 1980’s.
So, 7 sea kings have been out of service?
Greenday1Damn it why nothing about the capabilities. The F-16’s PAF flies now are a joke, the statement that the new ones would be better is so redundant. Is PAF going to acquire 150 JF-17’s at once or as batches like LCA. ALso anything new about the radar and avionics on the JF-17?
All the PAFs current fleet will go through MLU. JHCS, JDAMs, AMRAAM.
150 order will be placed with a follow on of 100.
250 in total
avionics and weapons are “in testing” as per reports today.
Greenday1has the RAF tornado GR-x fleet moved totally to LGB usage from medium/high alt or they still use the great lo-lo-lo treetop level ability of the tornado for ccip bombing and ingressing hostile regions ?
Its air defence Tornado F3s they will be using dude, not the GR4s. They will be practising DACT
With regards to the GR4. It has excellent low level and medium level ability.
Greenday1I think yasser has a point. Even though theres a difference between “good” and “best ever” and an obscure place on youtube is not the best place for PR, there’s nothing he (American) said that you or anyone else, did’nt know already. It would only have PR value for small, less respected, insignificant airforces. Unfortunately, examples of the latter will be hard pressed to acheive even that. 😀
Unfortunately, yasser does’nt know about the kind of negative comments like the Royal Saudi Arab AF etc receive from foreign pilots. Similarly, the IAF’s comments on the IrAF have not been outright praise but an outline of pros and cons. The IAF Hawk guys at the valley have’nt exactly been all praise for their RAF instructors either.
True Harry
But I am being diplomatic. There are plenty of negative things people say about alot of air forces/armies/companies etc etc.
RAF pilots have there own off the record opinion of Indians.
As you mentioned Indians have of the RAF
Greenday1Seems like the USAF jocks really respect & like their IAF counterparts and vice versa! 🙂
Reminds me of Greg Neubechs remarks immediately after Cope India.
Most foreign forces will make diplomatic comments when visiting to exercise or build relations. I would not get carried away. If they wanted to say negative things they would not be allowed too!
In fact, thats exactly what one RAF 43 Sqd squadron member told me, and guess what? I think he should be in India right now with his Tornado! :diablo:
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