I agree. The rear angles don’t even look right.

They are real, not fake taken with IRST in 1996. Unfortunatelly I dont know the place (I did not ask when I had a chance 🙁 ). According to angels, you must consider that B-2 was turning left when the second photo was taken and the first picutre is under, not above the plane.

Je ne peux pas parler français, mais je suis informaticien. Ainsi quoi encore si je veux…. 😀

If the question is how low, than the answer is – one rainy day too low. But usually they fly some 1000 feet above.

It’s not MiG. It never had anything to do with MiG. It’s Mukhamedov.

Bootles work Sean. I wrote that maybe ten times at this forum, but there are still people that believe this fantasy. Maybe because Shafagh HAD little support from MiG, but that was not connected to airframe design. And this mockup on video is of course two seat trainer. One seat fighter variant is still under development and far away from first flight.

Matej,

I noticed in your website that you mention a MiG 1.27, is that a project that MiG is working on or just a speculation? BTW-great website! I specially like those charts that you show the progression of various projects, for example the PAK-FA or LFS.

—–JT—–

Thanx. MiG PAK FA contender was a real project and it seems that it is still alive now (mainly because transformig of PAK FA specifications from multipurpose medium fighter to heavy air-to-air fighter that needs some lighter and cheaper accessory). Designation 1.27 is speculation from Paralay, based on estimated take-off weight. I have some information that confirmes that, but nothing what allow me to say “its that and I am 100 % right” It needs much more research…

I know that you didnt say it, but the thread is named “New 5th Gen MiG” – so my point was that this design has nothing in common with MiG.

Regarding to latest variant of M-ATF, there is not much information about, but you can find something more about its predcessors Vityaz 2000 and Integral 2000. And it is advanced light multipurpose fighter rather than trainer.

On your first picture is integrated surveillance and fire control system that has two optical channels providing wide and narrow fields of view and a narrow field of view optical television channel. The system can move within 110 degrees in azimuth and from +13 to -40 degrees in elevation. The system also incorporates a laser rangefinder.

On your second picture is cover for Ataka-V system antenna capable to track targets for guided missiles 9M120.

I can add a picture of Mi-28N with different equpiment. Up to down there is Ataka-V system antenna cover, two antennas for warning system Pastel, optoelectronic station for pilot Stolb (now replaced by GOES-520) with TV and thermovision channel and on the bottom is optoelectronic surveillance and tracking station for weapons officer Zenit Tor (it has day-optical, day-TV and night-termovision channel – every channel has wide surveillance and narrow guiding field of view).

WRONG. Britains EAP and French Rafale flew in 1986, EAP was NOTHING MORE than a Technology Demonstrator and NOT some kind of pre-prototype, as stated in volume 35 of “World Air Power Journal” page 62. The first flight of Typhoon was in 1994. Hope this clears a few things up 😀
Regards Phil.

That only confirmes, that when the canards are so unusefull, then BAe and Dassault should abadoned it in EAP and Rafale A and current Eurofighter and Rafale B/C/M should look very different. However they continued to use it also after ATF prototypes declassification. This is the last nog in the coffin of copying cause.