From what I hear restoration is intended to airworthy condition, operating passenger flights.
ClassicWings is a Netherlands based company that operates classic aircraft (An-2, mostly). On their website (http://classicwings.nl/hetbedrijf/) they say (translation): “August 2013 we started a restoration project on a DC3. This aircraft, a war veteran, will be brought back to flying and original condition. However, this will be a multi-year project.”
On the same page they state that they are the only company (along with the Dutch Dakota Association) in the Netherlands with a permit to operate regular passenger flights, both nationally and internationally.
In 1989 the RNLAF was still transitioning to the F-16. Two squadrons (at Eindhoven and Gilze-Rijen) still flew the NF-5, giving a maximum of 36 jets (admittedly: some more where kept in flyable storage, as they were to be transferred to Turkey and Greece). Also, the F-16s were still being delivered and about 20 had been lost in crashes. On an order of 212 F-16s – 20 crashed = 192 – two squadrons still not converted+deliveries in progress (40, likely more) means about 140-150 F-16s in 7 squadrons. Combined that brings some 180 aircraft assigned to NATO (which seems to be the number I had in my memory anyway).
AIX also has a topic on the old Italian airfield. You can find it here: http://www.airfieldinformationexchange.org/community/showthread.php?5270-Rhodes-Kalathos π
Several months have passed, and I am now nearing 500 airfields. Not too bad, if I may say so may self. π I am running into trouble occasionally: Europe has sooo many languages, it is sometimes pretty hard to find the information you’re looking for. And to add to the confusion some airfields were built by the Austrians in Czechoslavakia, taken over after MΓΌnich by the Germans, conquered by the Americans, handed over to the Russians, and now property of the Czech Republic. Or built by the Royal Air Force in France, conquered and used by the Germans, liberated and used by the Americans, handed over after the war to the French, who may have given it back to Americans until they kicked them out in 1967.
I now have a similar one: The Foggia Airfield Complex was first set up by the Italians, then the Germans began using it too until they were driven out by the British and Americans. The following photo was sent to me by the son of an American bombardeer that flew from the complex, and he would like to know which airfield it is. He sent me several actually, but this is one I’m having trouble with. A little background info: The bombardeer was a member of the 301st BG/32nd BS flying out of Lucera. This happens to be one of the airfields I have been unable to locate, so it would be perfect if there was a match. In the large version there are B-17s on the ‘black’ taxitrack parkings, and B-24s on the ‘white’ ones, so it would make a match there too. He has sent me photos of other fields too however, and Lesina is not the only airfield I have not located yet.
There is even a possibility that the airfield is not part of the Foggia Airfield complex, but at another location (even outside Europe). If so, I’d like to know which one. Your help would be greatly appreciated. π

Civilian airfields have always been part of the plans. Frankfurt-Main being the obvious example, like Brussels it is a shared airfield. But I recall Amsterdam-Schiphol being used for airlift flights during large exercises too, as were Saudi and severeal other M-E airfields during the Gulf Wars. Airfields all along the Italian east coast were used during the Yugoslavia/Balkan wars in the 1990s.
The Belgians still consider their cold war reserve airfields to be operational reserve fields. They used the airfield at Ursel for an exercise not that many years ago. The French did the same with Vouziers-Sechault in 2008.
And I’m pretty sure that almost every nation around the world hase some option to use civilian airports for wartime use. After all, noise complaints do not apply during those times.
An air force ‘in the cloud’, so to speak? “Air Power by the Hour”? Hmm, there might be a business model there… :diablo:
Topic kick:
Rocroi is also such a field (for which there is surprisingly little to find on line). But you might want to look into the NATO Dispersed Operating Bases in France. Wikipedia (in both english and french) mentions some, but I’ve discovered there are many more. If anyone has any information on reserve airfields in Europe I would sure like to hear something about them. π
Hrmpf.. He has some mannors, that Ghadaffi! Robbing the Dutch of their helicopter and all. Not sportsmanship.
I think they may be willing to trade it with Malta for two recently overhauled Mirages. π
Not really.
The ‘rescue attempt’ was absolutely pathetic. Where was the cover? Why illegally landing your Lynx on foreign soil to evacuate two mere persons from Sirte, when Sirte airport was still open to anyone with a ticket and a passport?
It was a useless effort, a pathetic performance and could have been a diplomatic disaster if it wasn’t for the Lybians acting kinder than they had too.
Stelletje kneuzen.
As you do not know all the details, like everybody else, you should keep your mouth shut until more information becomes available.
Lynx ‘277’ should be preserved as a fitting memorial to Dutch military and diplomatic incompetence. I’m sure a nice pedestal can be erected in a town in the Serb part of Bosnia-Herzegovina.
Lynx 277 has nothing to do with Bosnia. Again: you are trolling. Consider yourself kill filed.
The SH-14D Lynx 277 will remain in Lybia, as a nice trophy to commemorate the Dutch’ Navy utter FAIL.
Such a poor attempt at trolling…. π
Far from it, my view is the minute you started to introduce all of this stuff, you instantly lost the war against terrorism, they had achieved their goal.
I’m not sure who the crazies are anymore. To ‘protect’ us from terrorism and child pornography we are ‘protected’ by laws and measures the East German Stasi and the KGB could only dream of 25 years ago, and more is underway. Western governments are ‘protecting’ our freedom by restricting it.
But I’m going off-topic here…
As you may know, Australia is investigating a 5th C-17
http://www.minister.defence.gov.au/minreleases.cfm
BUT, KiwiRob over at A.net made this post
Looks like a deal similar to what Belgium has agreed on with Luxemburg. One A400M is getting paid for by the Luxemburgers, but it will be integrated in the Belgian airlift squadron.
It’s not the toys, or the lack thereof. It’s the mindset. Remember Srebrenica!
Srebrenica failed because of international politics. That resulted in the Dutch MoD ordering NATO to hold fire, but it all began when NOBODY wanted to relief the Dutch forces there (almost unarmed and having been on rations for half a year because NOBODY was willing to undertake an effort to resupply them), and NOBODY was willing to stop the Serbs for a period of up to 3 years before that. That includes the Brits, that includes the Americans, that includes the French. Do your research.
@ RonaldV: The problem starts much earlier. You do NOT fly in there alone. One helo in the air covering, the other on the ground doing its thing, doorguns ready, &c. Oh! Only one helo aboard that ship? Why is that? Why is such an unsuitable platform sent into such a situation? THAT’s the problem.
Again: do your research. Hr. Ms. Tromp was not even supposed to be there, it had to return from the Suez Canal because it was going to hunt pirates off East-Africa. THAT is why it carried only one helo. It was the closest military presence in the area. That single helo was sent in because the alternative (doing nothing because you have only one hellicopter) was worse.
Just to set the record straight here:
The Royal Netherlands Marine Corps does not own or fly helicopters.
The Royal Netherlands Navy (also known as the Koninklijke Marine) does. The personnel held in Lybia are not Marines, they are Navy personnel. I don’t know where the translation error was made (even the newsmedia in the Netherlands make this mistake), but let it be clear:
These people are not Marines, they are Navy!
And for any of you id**ts shouting “disgrace”: I’d like to see ANY naval aviator do better under similar circumstances. These airmen were sent to Syrte unarmed with the message “all is quiet, you just have to pick up two civilians on the dock.” Upon landing they were met by an armed gang.
When People like Quaddafi are in power against the wish of his own people and killing them. Sovereignty and Sovereign Air Space means nothing.
I hope NATO intervenes soon. As for the Russians making a fuzz about all this. South Ossetia anyone !
How I wish if they do it under UN flag, Russians Chinese NATO all involved.
I hope NATO will NOT intervene, because that would ‘prove’ to the entire muslim world that we will always attack muslims and we set up the whole democratic movement in the arabian world. Let them handle it themself. Support them, but do not get in an active role. That’ll be MUCH better in the long term (although I’m pretty sure some muslims will begin complaining that the lives of muslims are not worth anything to NATO, or they would have come to help).