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  • in reply to: Raptor pilots are not keen to fly… #2314334
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    It still guarantees air supremacy in a way that no other fighter can.

    I wouldn’t be too sure about that. Given 1960s SA-6 can shoot down 1980s F-117, it isn’t far of a stretch to imagine what a 2000s system such as Buk-M2E can do to a 2000s system such as F-22 😉

    in reply to: AVIC JF-17 Thunder versus SAAB JAS-39 Gripen #2314336
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    And Chinese state spending on education is a smaller proportion of GDP than in the USA, or any EU country except Luxembourg.

    the US’s public education is far below par. its private education is top notch 😀 China’s education system is almost all public

    in reply to: AVIC JF-17 Thunder versus SAAB JAS-39 Gripen #2314354
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    Any fighter can take on a Gripen, the problem is to return home alive. Even more if you have an RCS of 3m2 with combat load.

    no doubt a Griffin C can take down a MiG-21 or a MiG-25 easily, but it would be challenging taking on a Thunder Block 1 😀 What’s Griffin C’s frontal RCS with air superiority combat load? and does Griffin C still armed with AIM-120B?

    MiG-21 can take on Thunder. Thunder just has two small bumps on the side. MiG-21 has one huge bump right in the nose, its a flying DSI machine!

    on the contrary, MiG-21’s shock cone slides forwards and backwards as the aircraft’s speed changes, just as Mirage and SR-71’s shock cones do. Thunder’s bumps are immobile and part of the fuselage and they require no maintenance and are not prone to mechanical failures while significantly cutting down production complexity and cost 😀

    in reply to: AVIC JF-17 Thunder versus SAAB JAS-39 Gripen #2314410
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    Perhaps, but at the end of politics is money. I think China is far from behind the West in technology. Everything in the U.S. is made in China (unfortunately). One really has to go out of their way to find something that isn’t, especially something technical. Most of the U.S. flags are made in China. Whether or not the Chinese actually developed the tech they are mass-producing is another question. Experience is another factor too. The Chinese have the money, industry and the capability to build and operate an aircraft carrier, but do they have the experience? Do the Russians? Maybe a little but not anything close to the USN or the French. Early attempts at mass-producing MiG-19’s and 21’s, without Russian assistance in setting-up production, produced aircraft the PLAAF would not accept.

    I doubt technology is a problem for Chinese. After all, they make some of the largest and most advanced oil tankers. 😀

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUD5vV0tcfI

    http://english.sina.com/china/p/2010/0123/301431.html

    China’s defense budget is very limited for its size as compared to the US which spends a great deal of its GDP on its military. Unlike the US, a great deal of China’s budget goes into its public education. Consequently, China’s strategy is towards highly survivable smaller weapons systems rather than huge super carriers

    in reply to: bomber fighter feasibility #2314416
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    the hub of the North Star from which the star’s 4 triangular points emanate could be in the shape of a cube, and it could be connected to the fuselage without any structural support for optimized aerodynamics. another advantage of the North Star is that, with such a configuration, the 4 large triangular AESAs and the 4 large triangular IRSTs both provide 360 degrees coverage of action without sacrificing the size of each sensor the way a round structure would 😀 from the side view, each AESA or IRST could be in the shape of a triangle with a horizontal side at the bottom so the North Star sensor complex itself is a natural extension of the fuselage

    in reply to: bomber fighter feasibility #2314462
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    Proposal accepted if it has DSI.

    😀 and imagine such a bomber fighter equipped with a very capable autopilot and remote control ala combat drones

    in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 16 #2314547
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    And now you gonna show us any pics?

    WS-10G powering J-20, same class as F-22’s engine

    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/541/34503895.jpg/

    in reply to: AVIC JF-17 Thunder versus SAAB JAS-39 Gripen #2314549
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    Koreans are Mongols? I think that’ll surprise Korean ethnologists, philologists, & historians.

    yeah, have you heard Korean? if not there are plenty of KDramas around 😀

    Do you think the Japanese are another Mongol tribe?

    Japanese is not a Mongol tribe. they are half Chinese, half Korean, with the speed of the latter and the pronunciation of the former 😀

    BTW, if Mongols & Manchus are in the same family, then one could describe Sinhalese & Portuguese as Slavic tribes, or Swedes & Bengalis as Greek tribes, with rather more justification. At least for them, there’s no argument about whether their languages are related, or just a Sprachbund.

    um not quite. Jurchen and Goryeo are so similar they can partially understand each another just as Belarussians and Russians can partially understand each other or Dutch and Germans can partially understand each other. they are very closely related languages

    in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 16 #2314558
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    Jagged nozzles?
    Like F135?

    stealth nozzles that reduce RCS 😀

    in reply to: Chinese Air Power Thread 16 #2314564
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    WS-10A has about 30,000 lb of thrust and WS-10G has over 32,000 lb of thrust with jagged nozzles AFAIK 😎

    in reply to: AVIC JF-17 Thunder versus SAAB JAS-39 Gripen #2314567
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    not only can Thunder take on Griffin C, IMO it is a challenge to Lightning which is over a decade after Thunder 😀

    http://www.topgunchen.cn/doc_img/album/20070715-859-1-3.jpg

    pics http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4WjYESLFbc

    promo vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFg22Cms7MI

    airshow vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcI4VzyaCRE&feature=fvwrel

    another airshow vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u62r6BBj888

    another promo vid (bad aspect ratio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xgq_-qofheA

    in reply to: AVIC JF-17 Thunder versus SAAB JAS-39 Gripen #2314611
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    well at least we know now you’re not Chinese. Every Chinese knows Manchus and Mongols not the same.

    don’t be so arrogant 😀 Mongol is not a single tribe. there are many Mongol tribes such as Ula, Jurchen, Korean (officially known as Goryeo). they speak very similar languages, just as Germanic tribes did. I know because my grandma’s family was from the Jurchen tribe 😀 not only did Jurchens conquer China, they also conquered the Ula and Goryeo tribes amongst many others

    in reply to: AVIC JF-17 Thunder versus SAAB JAS-39 Gripen #2314969
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    I always thought the Mongol invasions was in 1200, do you have a link on the invasion 1644 ?

    Jurchens, a Mongol tribe 😀 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchu_conquest_of_China

    the first Mongol conquest lasted about 100 years, the second one lasted about 300 years. China has been fighting Mongols for hundreds of years from the 1100s onward

    in reply to: AVIC JF-17 Thunder versus SAAB JAS-39 Gripen #2314991
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    So…for hundreds of years, it WAS behind in technology?

    Seems to contradict what you said earlier.

    yes China was behind from 1644 when it was conquered by Mongols again till mid 2000s when it caught up again 😀

    Ming dynasty ships of the early 1400s, the largest and the most technologically advanced in the world at the time, that sailed to Africa for trade with the aid of Chinese invented magnetic compass

    http://gomyclass.com/oceanography112/files/lecture1/html/images/slides/slide78full.jpg

    http://gomyclass.com/oceanography112/files/lecture1/html/images/slides/slide79full.jpg

    another Thunder vid. seems aspect ratio is a bit off http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xgq_-qofheA

    in reply to: AVIC JF-17 Thunder versus SAAB JAS-39 Gripen #2315011
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    Thunder training simulator which eliminates the need for a 2 seater training version.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZsbUXxXHyA&feature=related

    Cockpit seems to be similar to that of Super Hornet with a 2 piece combiner HUD rather than a single piece HUD as in Griffin. Does Griffin have an equivalent training simulator?

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