What annoys me more than the fact he wasn’t allowed in is that it is only the far right that are treated in this way, the equally far left don’t get the same and it highlights the fear of the far right at the moment, not very good PR by HMGOV.

Theres too many attractive jets
SHar FRS.1 especially in the RN metalic blue and white livery
Bucc looked an absolute pig on the deck but 25ft off the deck it was something else!
I quite like the look of Gripen but the solitary engine makes it look very twiggy towards the **** end.

Jets that aren’t so appealing
Almost any US production jet since the 50s; Not that they are necessarily ugly, most don’t look bad at all but none of them have any character! (the ones that did never made it through (McDonnell Douglas/BAe JSF proposal, F-117N[pure fantasy anyway but that’s not the point], YF-17 had something that dissapeared by the time F/A-18A came about, YF-23 to name but a few).
However they’re beaten into 3rd place by the Flogger and Finback.

Yip the F-35 and American Systems will be available, remember Kumar is oil rich and the American’s like their oil:D

so are Saudi, UAE, Qatar, Kuwait etc. but I cant see any of them on the guest list to the F-35 shop.

I just dont like the Type 45 that much and at £1 bill a ship they are too much for my budget. Any chance I could put the RIM-162 Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile in the Aster – or I’ll just swap out the Aster 50 for Mk 41

Also i switched the budget to 18bill

£600m/ship really… and i would wager that F100 is cheaper to build too

(or are we taking into account R&D, etc here?)

“Antelope is also an old name IIRC).”

And you do this from Wiki:

“Twelve ships of the Royal Navy have been named HMS Antelope, after the Antelope:

HMS Antelope was a galleon carrying between 38 and 44 guns. She was launched in 1546, rebuilt twice and was burned by parliamentarian sailors at Hellevoetsluis in 1649.
HMS Antelope was a 56-gun third rate great frigate launched in 1651 and wrecked in 1652.
HMS Antelope was a 40-gun fourth rate frigate launched in 1653 as Preston and renamed in 1660. She was sold in 1693.
HMS Antelope was a 54-gun fourth rate launched in 1703. She was rebuilt in 1741 and was sold in 1783.
HMS Antelope was a 14-gun sloop purchased in 1784, and lost in a hurricane later that year.
HMS Antelope was a 14-gun brig launched in 1793 and sold after 1830.
HMS Antelope was a 50-gun fourth rate launched in 1802. She was used as a troopship from 1818, was placed on harbour service from 1824 and was broken up in 1845.
HMS Antelope was a 14-gun schooner, the ex-Spanish prize Firefly. She was purchased in 1808 and broken up in 1814.
HMS Antelope was an iron paddle sloop launched in 1846 and sold in 1883.
HMS Antelope was an Alarm-class torpedo gunboat launched in 1893. She was used for harbour service from 1910 and was sold in 1919.
HMS Antelope was an A-class destroyer launched in 1929 and sold in 1946.
HMS Antelope was a Type 21 frigate launched in 1972 and bombed and sunk in the Falklands War in 1982. “

If wiki is to be trusted (i don’t like using it, although i will double check my notes against it if i find they are wrong) then Antelope is a fitting name for nothing but a Corvette/Frigate

I might be wrong, I read somewhere that the 97 review initially outlined 12 and that it has been revised downwards ever since to meet budgets.

If we get less than 7 then serious changes to Naval doctrine will be needed in the upcoming SDR. But Labour have effectively committed to 7, the Tories may try to wriggle out but i’m praying they aren’t quite as stupid as they come across in defence matters.

call-me-daves aren’t going to remedy the problem with defence, if anything they’ll continue down the course the UK are heading to atm

I am hoping for a second batch with a lot of improvements to be ordered as well sometime in the future. Maybe so many improvements it could be a different class. Guess we will have to wait and see. Any hopes for one of the new batch getting called HMS Ark Royal?

i would like to see Amphion, Atremis and Apollo but who knows!

Those are great images. Some of the shots even looked real, a pity they couldn’t work up a few of CVA-01, I’d love to see what that would have looked like in the flesh so to speak. I do have a question though, what are those displays on the islands? They look like the electronic timetables you get in railway and some bus stations?

2012 to HMNB Portsmouth delayed, expected 2016
2015 to HMNB Portsmouth delayed, expected 2018

:p

There is always MARS to keep them busy. 😉

or LPH(R)…