Latest word from the NTSB is fatigue cracking was found in the spar. Seems a bit fast to come up with that diagnosis, considering they just retrieved the wing from the water yesterday, but I’m not an investigator… maybe it’s as obvious as the proverbial dog’s b*****ks. Very sad all the way around, what a loss for the people on Bimini…
Lynn
And does Inferno live in a shed built from implywood? 😀
(hastily exits, stage left…)
Tim, you’d have been better off asking if it would be at Legends… 😀 (Cheers mate, keep posting)
And I’m very glad to hear it’s going to be properly taken care of. Good thing Tim posted in this thread, otherwise we might not’ve known, eh Flood?
Lynn
What an immense shock, and what an immense loss.
I never had the fortune to see him fly in person, but I’ve seen photos and videos… he was, truly, a master of his craft, and it was obvious that he enjoyed what he did. More tellingly, I’ve never once heard or read a negative thing spoken of Ray Hanna. Another fellow enthusiast put it best… the world is a poorer place for his passing.
But think how much richer we all are for having been blessed with a man of his skill and genuine humanity, even if his passing comes too soon for us…
Godspeed to you, Mr. Hanna, and welcome home.
With utmost respect,
Lynn
Absolutely outstanding work, Ronnie, and including the F-12 Rainbow is a touch of sheer genius. Damned strange looking job, that Messerschmitt… looks as though I’ll need to find a way to build one, though! 🙂
Keep up the superb work!
Lynn
WOW.
That Weihe is in amazing condition. Regarding the survivor of the crash, I believe it would be appropriate to restore the aircraft once it is recovered back to its original markings, as a tribute to the fallen… despite having flown for the wrong side, they were still human beings and their loss made an impact on their friends and families.
Just my opinion, mind you…
Lynn
Not sure if this is the same one, but there was one for sale in Suffolk, Virginia. The serial number is ANAE231 and it was retrieved from Russia. I believe it is the fuselage only.
Jerry Yagen has the entire airframe, complete with the original Merlin XX. I’ve been out there and shot pics of it in it’s current partially restored state… when I spoke with the techs who work there, many were spooked by the history of it (this is the one where they found the mummified corpse of Boris Lazarev in the cockpit)
A section of stabilizer or fin, perhaps? Interesting piece, but I can’t seem to make much of it at the moment… perhaps that red/white/blue bit of paint might be a clue?
And more importantly, will it form the basis of a dataplate restoration to be seen at Legends? (lights fuse, runs away :diablo: ) 😀
In all seriousness, given the size of it, I hope the fishermen noted the approximate location where it was retrieved; there’s bound to be more down there, and I think we’d all like to know what it is!
Lynn
The whole thing is fabricated, perhaps some OEM equipment bolted in, but there is no way a’tall that this is an authentic Messerschmitt cockpit. No way, no how.
Here’s what a REAL 109F cockpit looks like, from my site:

“Messerschmitt AG” stamps on the metal, eh? *stifles a chuckle*
Lynn
Gotta agree Moggy, those alloys are trick! 🙂
Wessex, what you’re looking for is what we in the States refer to as a “fart can” exhaust; every rice rocket worth it’s weight in tacky badges has one!
Lynn
I think Peter speaks of the intact P-39 lifted from a lake last year; Mark Sheppard did a thorough writeup in a “prominent British aviation magazine” about it, which explained why such a pristine aircraft with no battle damage was found with the pilot still on board (!!!).
No idea where it’s at right now, though… and no, I don’t know if it will be at Legends. >:)
Lynn
Will they take a check? 😀 (Oh, don’t I wish…)
It would be nice to see it restored in proper Spanish Civil War markings as 6 o 88; dollars to donuts that it gets redone as Galland’s machine, though. 🙁 Plus, those DB605’s aren’t going to do much good on the Emil; it used the 601.
Lynn
Those are antennae for the SN-2 Liechtenstein radar apparatus. Earlier models carried FuG 202 and FuG 212 that had what looked like a bedspring on the front of the aircraft; these dipoles were a significant improvement on that technology. The FuG 240 Berlin centimetric set, using a dish instead of dipoles, was experimentally installed in a few Ju 88G-6s at the end of the war, and would have been a standard fit for the Ju 388 nightfighters, had the war continued. Thankfully, it never got to that point; RAF losses would have skyrocketed as no jamming technology had yet been developed to combat that set.
Lynn
A batch of Spitfire Is and Emils would be a spectacular idea, with no shortage of takers… the biggest issue would be powerplants, as Merlins and DBs don’t exactly grow on trees. Plus, if such an ambitious project were to come to fruition, imagine the increase in bookie traffic with forum members laying odds as to how quickly the entire batch of Emils would come to grief in landing accidents… 🙂
Lynn
Oscar, you brought up another excellent point, which doesn’t seem to get remarked upon too frequently. This is not an insular community- what one person does can have very large consequences for a whole group of people. If one pilot decided to have a go at an outside loop in his Humbley Page Barndoor Mk V and the wings folded up, every other pilot who owned a Barndoor Mk V would face increased attention from the CAA/FAA. This could lead to further restrictions on the aircraft, high costs in parts and labor to comply with an AD, or even grounding of the type.
Lynn