It’s not an ARGUMENT! Not everything has to be ARGUMENT. Geeezzzzz!!!
I was just trying to make sense of the discrepancies in the data you and I brought to the table from our own sources.

No, I don’t quite understand what you mean. Perhaps you can enlighten me. I know what density is in materials so I can follow you in broad lines as regards equipment. But it remains that if Styx and Yakhont/Brahmos missile weight about the same and but you carry multiple Yakhont/Brahmos missiles in the space originally taken up by a single Styx, then that means a significant increase in weight carried in that space. Now, to me, that sounds like the same thing that you might be referring to as (increased) density.

By the way, just because 2 launch racks, each able to carry 6 Yakhont missiles, are installed on a Nanuchka for trial purposes does not necessarily mean that that (or any other) Nanuchka will actually be loaded up with 12 such missiles. I’ve seen images of that ship with the racks and carrying a single missile container in it but not any with both racks fully loaded up. Maybe you have, in which case I would be interested in an url to visit.

sigh if you want to believe what you want to believe sure go ahead no point in this discussion since its Off topic. But data suggests even tarantul can carry 8-12 yakhont there plenty of models and info to prove that.

“The universal missile weights only 3 tons, and it can be placed in all kinds of ships or launches of Russian or foreign make. Its guidance system can be used with various types of carriers. If installed on a ship being modernized, three containers with Yakhont missiles can replace a single launching position of an “old” cruise missile. For instance, when modernizing a boat of the 1241 Tarantul project, which was sold well to dozens of countries in the Soviet years, its four P-15 Termit missiles may be replaced with 12 Yakhont anti-ship cruise missiles.”

Although it’s intended for Klub missile family, the dimensions alow to fit in Brahmos as well. I wonder, may be that’s the launcher installed on Rajput?
JonS: You are absolutely right abot the booster. Surface-launched version of course needs a booster stage, so the length will be 8,9m.

could be orginally they were have to just some metal beams holding those canisters guess specs changed?
Doesnt air launched version also have a small booster?

That canister is for the stealth FAC 2208 The caption says the FAC registered number “2208.” 8 per ship.

was googling around for hellenic zubr images and found this, will try to find a better exocet canister image but it looks similar to it so i assume its PSed? Unless china got hold of exocet or uses canisters similar to it..

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If they do, great. However, thus far, I’ve seen only images of 1 ship so equiped. As Barak/Star on Ranvir and Ranvijay: yes, that’s what I said was posted on Bharat Rakshak (which says “Ranvir and/or Ranvijay”)

Its hard to tell. However, considering missile weight and the fact that in previous images (which by the way had round canisters, not quare ones) Rajput mounted a pair of Brahmos to port, I still think its just a pair.

respective to its size its not that heavy compared to styx, i.e russian navy’s nanchuka is fitted with 12 Onyks they intend to fit 12 on other vessels with 4 termit missiles.

Jon, I didn’t say is was a new thing. I was one of the people that noted it in 2003. But she is the only one of the class to have it at this time. And it does still remain the case that each ship of this class seems to have gotten 1 main item (be it a sensor or a weapon) replaced by something new, and with the exception of EW suite none of the class got the same item replaced.

i believe last three have lw-08 radar, its rumoured the ranvir and ranvijay have barak/star.

Anyway is it just me or do i see 3 brahmos launchers in starboard of rajput not sure however.

Ranjit does have the Bharat RAWL (Signaal LW08) instead of the russian Big Net air search radar. IIRC yet another indian Kashin had received STAR. Not seen any of the class fitted with Barak and associated fire control radar yet, but BR says “55 and/or 54 has been fitted”, which would be INS Ranvijay and INS Ranvir. They all got an Israely EW suite. Appears as if each ship is getting a part of what may eventually amount to a complete midlife upgrade package (Brahmos, Barak, new search radars, associated fire control radars, EW, maybe modernization of S-125M/SA-N-1 SAM). Harry ought to know more about this.

LW08 is nothing new was noted in 2003 in china,

I think the short range of these smallfry make it difficult to intercept supersonic crossing targets and defend other ships in group. You’d need atleast a ESSM/Shtil/Aster15 for that.

most missiles intercept range against SSMs is around 10-15 km typically because of detection range and low altitude interception.

Klub is already in service and seems superior to slam-er. Three Krivack-3 in IN service all are equipped with klub, not to mention some kilos. But I doubt aussies would buy from anyone else other than US or france.

sigh do you even bother reading before you reply this is about air launched land attack variant of the klub. And FYI IAF did send out tender for air launched 200 km ranged missile to mbda,rafale as always but not to novatar.

I doubt Aussies will consider klub since its hasnt entered service,weights 2 tons, needs to be integrated with F-18, isnt any better than slam-er and isnt MITL system like slam-er. Besides wont be suprised if IAF ends up being them as well instead of agm-142.

I’m pretty sure that YJ-12 is the type of supersonic anti-ship missile on 052C DDG’s deck. YJ-12 may have someting to do with Yakhont. 😀 . No pic of YJ-12 leaked. I just saw a YJ-12’s hand-drawing sketch that similar to Yakhont’s.

erm there few differences i can make out already, it also doesnt seem as long as yakhont and also yakhont comes packaged in TEL/Canister.
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wtvr happened to rumour of the missile on 052c being this missile?
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