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  • in reply to: INS Viraat visit to Southeast Asia #2092332
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    in trials for chile and singapore iirc it shot down exocet/harpoon class missiles. and IN has shot down ss-n-2 and uran type unarmed missiles I think.

    http://www.acig.org/exclusives/viraat/viraat_1.htm
    In the final series of tests, all ships test launched their Baraks against every type of AsHM in Indian Navy inventory and scored 100% hits

    however it is not capable of intercepting supersonic sea skimming missiles ?

    yes it is
    http://www.rafael.co.il/web/rafnew/products/nav-barak.htm

    . Barak is effective against highly maneuvering, supersonic and low altitude threats (sea skimmers), as well as low radar cross section (RCS) targets.

    Anyway i didnt see el/m FCR or star in ranjiit wasnt it supposed to have barak?
    http://www.alert5.com/gallery/viraat/MG_0268

    in reply to: British CVF thread #2093294
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    The 6 carriers I proposed would replace 6 existing ships, so they wouldn’t increase the burden on escorts or manpower too much, if at all. It would also be a rare event to have all 6 active at the same time.

    huh yeah they will
    -first of all no of RN escorts is drastically going down from 30 to 18,
    -second of all without those docks RN’s amphibious capabilities will be very limited.
    -Third those docks dont require much manpower or maintenence cost, around 300 complement for albion. A 25k ton carrier would require 4 times as much.

    in reply to: British CVF thread #2093542
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    I agree. A half a dozen carriers similar to the proposed SAC-220 would’ve been the way to go.
    http://www.revistanaval.com/imaxes/nuevos_proyectos_izar_02.jpg

    RN doesnt seem have enough surface combatants in the near future to protect that many carriers unless # of t-45s is increased to 12 and FSC procurment is sped up, if that doesnt happen 2015 RN’s surface combatant fleet will be composed of 6 Type 45s and 12-13 Type 23s.

    in reply to: IAF -news and discussion june 2005 #2613914
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    mm dont see the point of starting another thread considering none of the information is new,
    anyway US is offering aegis isnt new, it was offered back in 2002 along with spurance DDG.

    in reply to: IAF -news and discussion june 2005 #2614063
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    M2K-5 is still better than any MIG-29 versions specially if u upgrade it to M2K9 standards. RDY-2 has invisible lock on feature. EW suite and communication suite is way beyond what russia can built or any other country will help out with MIG-29. single engine saves fuel and maintainance and why spent money on another short range twin seater when u can spent that on MKI. twin engine MIG-29 weopon load and range isnt much better than single seat Mirage nor is there big advantage in hard points.

    EW on Mig-29m are indigenous same will be case with MIRAGE-2000 as well. Anyway potential cost savings from a single engine and rdy-2 alone is not enough to mainly justify spending 60+ million on aircraft. As i said before whether Mig-29 or M-2000 win out will mainly depend on how much IAF is impressed with navy’s Mig-29k and the Mirage-2000-5 when they are procured from UAE.

    in reply to: The WS-10 debate #2614859
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    and none of which looks remotely like the 052C’s APRs. they dont even work on the same frequency.

    o here comes the troll, somehow you know the radar’s frequency plz entertian us to what it is or it more of your jibberish you guys spit out and claim its fact. Nice that you wasted your time with that pointless excuse of a post anyway not gonna waste my time arguing with you since its pointless, its no factual and doesnt concern you.

    Besides how did you know what he meant unless you are him (multiple user ids?), fact that he choose not to correct himself in the reply to my post in his first reply is more than proof thats what he meant.

    added: Here is tombstone radar image as promised earliar.

    in reply to: The WS-10 debate #2614903
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    Plans are plans. Unless they turned operational or at least is in trials, they’re paper projects. You can hot air any piece of paper you want. But if it’s not in actual metal and electronics with a stamp of approval on it and a long check record of testing, it’s not real. I don’t view paper projects with the same optimism as you do; it is so easy to make proposals and plans, so much exponentially harder to actually execute them successfully. The issue is what you actually have and not what you are supposed to have or capable of doing. The only thing I give a hoot about is achievement and execution.

    wtf are you talking about tombstone is in service with kirov and was undergoing trials and same is true with positiv-ME as well. If you dont know much on these plz refrain from posting makes you only look more foolish. And dont get me started on you not believing paper projects especially considering on all assumptions you make when it comes to J-10, 054, WS-10 etc.

    I made it explicitly clear that I was talking about the idiot assumption that there is any connection between the Russian/Ukrainian systems and the 052C’s.

    learn to read english properly plz no point in continuing a discussion with someone who cant, I was first replying to your argument on russian radar not on 052C’s radar why else would quote that specifically.

    in reply to: Quality vs Quantity for the UK #2614935
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    The biggest problem Britain has is that it tries to punch above its weight. Vast somes of money are spent keeping troops and equipment in warzones all over the world so that Tony Blair can cayy on thinking he is the most important person in the world. Yet at the same time he refuses to cough up the money to do this.
    Britain is faced with a stark choice, either scale back operations or increase spending.

    how much is Britain spending on foreign deployments any actual figures on that only got data on royal army’s iraq deployment costs.

    in reply to: The WS-10 debate #2614945
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    Huh? Tombstone is land based. Positiv is a very different animal from a fleet air defense system functionally similar to Aegis.

    what do you mean its land based most russian naval radars are based on land based radars.Tombstone is deployed on kirov 099 was to be mass deployed on all other vessels as well but was put off IIRC. There was plans for four faced tombstone radar on a ddg back in mid 90s i believe the new russian ddg in design phase may incoporate that.
    Positiv-3D is much smaller in size to spy-1 but offers 200 km range and can be incoporated into corvette sized vessels wont take much to devolop a larger version of it if needed.

    There is no proof it is Ukrainian. Kvant does not even have fire control and missile guidance functions. It is just an air search array. China’s HT-233 phase array systems were already available as early as 1998 long before Kvant was even offered or allegedly sold in 2004.

    As i said dont care that radar is indigenous or soviet based would much rather prefer the former, my argument was him saying that russia didnt have radar of that capability.

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    will try to find photos of tombstone on kirov and rest when i get some spare time.

    in reply to: The WS-10 debate #2614955
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    Idiotic. I said nothing about Russia’s ability to make good radars or not. I said there is nothing like the 052C’s system on any Russian destroyer so there is no evidence that it’s a “knock off” as you stupidly said.

    Whether the 052C’s system is as good as current conventional Russian systems like the Tombstone is besides the point. The point is there is no evidence of connection with the Kvant or whatever make-believe secret unimplemented Russian R&D project you idiotically throw up for discussion.

    Well what is one supposed to interpet this

    Not only that, the Kvant has only been on carrier sized ships. There is absolutely NO Russian destroyer with a system anywhere near the 052C’s.

    Bad english? That arguments makes anyone believe you are basically saying that russia has no radar system anywere near as capable as it is on 052C. If you didnt mean that why didnt correct yourself 6 posts back instead of typing more pathetic name callings By knockoff i mean copyoff of some land based radar ofcourse which is what most say that radar is. You need learn and express yourself so that you can come up with proper replies instead of childish insults.

    in reply to: The WS-10 debate #2614975
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    Let me repeat myself. That was the dumbest response possible when you attempt to say that because Russia has plenty of unknown, unimplemented R&D projects then it is somehow related to something from a former Soviet republic.

    And even you should understand the Russians have a funding problem which means less R&D not more. :rolleyes:

    lmao right repeating yourself because you cant read and respond to responses isnt that meaning of a dumb response. You idotically said russia hasnt devoloped a advanced radar like that for destroyers and i provided proof of some very capable radars that were devoloped by russia for the russian navy and export so i rest may case.

    in reply to: The WS-10 debate #2614980
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    The dumbest response I could imagine. You are trying to use as “proof” that a system (which is unlike any Russian/former Soviet we see) by saying that it is based a “secret” Soviet project. How convenient, you don’t have to prove your assertions because it’s secret. :rolleyes:

    There is no way to prove or disprove make believe assertions.

    But I’ll grant you that lack of funding in Russia s real. It also means a lack of funding for practical R&D too.

    you are calling me dumb considering how you can read english properly, were did i say that its russian or ukrainian i am not even arguing that it is. I am saying you cant say its not soviet simply because it wasnt deployed on a vessel unless you first off show us proof that is chinese or its not ukrainian. Before you spout out more off you idiotic arguments plz try to read and understand english first. As i said before russia had plenty of naval advanced radar systems that werent mass deployed on vessel i already listed a few off those above..

    in reply to: The WS-10 debate #2615013
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    Capable or not is besides the point. The Russian/former Soviet Republic systems are nothing like the 052C’s so it is idiocy to claim any connections between the two. We don’t see anything similar on Russian destroyers.

    even thou i am not the one saying its ukrainian i think its some decent chinese phased array knock off. You cant say that its not soviet based simply because they didnt have such system installed on destroyer as i said before a lot of soviet systems were R&D and were never implemented due to lack of funding.

    in reply to: The WS-10 debate #2615030
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    Not only that, the Kvant has only been on carrier sized ships. There is absolutely NO Russian destroyer with a system anywhere near the 052C’s.

    first of all kvant is ukranian not russian and second saying russians dont have radar like that is moot argument because they dont have any funding. But russians do have very capable state of the art radar system there is tombstone radar, Podberezovik radar, 3D positiv etc.
    Anyway PLAN’s radar capability are very minimal if they could come with something like that why they do use good A band WW-II radars for 052c’s search function, i mean whatever capability 052c’s phased radar has goes right down the drain because of those. China is capable of devoloping state of art 5th generation phased array radars but cant devolop a simple search radar right dont get me started on whole ithose VHF antennas are stealth detection radar argument plz. As i said from the begining i doubt those phased array radar are very capable.

    in reply to: Indian Advanced Light Weight Torpedo dilemma #2045527
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    i believe IN is procuring more torpedoes from Whitehead most likely Euro torp Mu90, rather unlikely they will confuse that with C-303, especially the amount 900 it clearly states in that link.

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