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  • in reply to: Pakistan Air Force #2626360
    JonS
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    so Grifo-7 (350mm) and Grifo-M has the same range :rolleyes: use some logic.

    then you agree that its range is 55 km taken from your sources..
    sinodefence
    Paktribune

    The Italian Grifo-7 fire-control radar, I-band, detect-range of 55km

    GRIFO 7 multimode radar with a trackimg range of 30 nm,

    Usman,
    only seen those posted and they are for grifo-7 not grifo-m.

    in reply to: Pakistan Air Force #2626610
    JonS
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    Usman,
    so you are saying its wrong because you have been proved wrong? Dont u think bit more coincedence that detection range for grifo-M has been quoted as 111 km which as i said before is max dectection range against large RCS targets. Also notice how it accurately has the data for asv at 102 km as it has been noted before. Also the link has info on look down range for grifo-m which is quoted at 32-37 km so look up should be around 50 km IMO. Unless you have concrete evidence to prove otherwise i think that data is quite accurate.

    Arshad
    look down range against fighter sized targets is 32-37 km it says right there in the website….

    in reply to: Pakistan Air Force #2626662
    JonS
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    The Grifo M values are given against fighter sized targets and not frigate/ship size targets. We are talking about Grifo M here, do not confuse it with Grifo ASV or Grifo 7.

    once again from the manufacturers website

    P2800 is Grifo-M btw

    100kW Range ship with 10,764 sq ft (1,000 sq m) radar cross-section in adverse weather conditions P2800 60 nm (69 mi; 111 km) P2801 55 nm (63 mi; 102 km)

    in reply to: Pakistan Air Force #2626929
    JonS
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    You might be confusing Grifo-7 with Grifo M. The last time I checked Janes, the detection range of Grifo M was stated to be 111 KM. I have also talked to some PAF Mirage pilots, none of them would give an exact figure, but just that the detection range (for Grifo M fitted on Mirage-III’s) is 100-plus KM.

    Plz read the thread before you actually reply thats detection range against frigate sized target 1000 m2 not against fighter sized targets.

    The earlier/basic APG-66 has a range of 35 miles (56 km) in look-down mode, which provides clutter-free indication of low-flying targets. In the Up-look mode, the range is 50 miles (80 km).

    once again thats not the detection range for fighter sized targets thats max range.

    in reply to: U-2 Crashed in southeast asia #2626997
    JonS
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    looks it was used in iraq but why and centcom has confirmed the pilot has died.

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

    PILOT DIES AFTER U-2 CRASH IN SOUTHWEST ASIA

    SOUTHWEST ASIA – The pilot of a U.S. Air Force U-2 died when the plane crashed in Southwest Asia at 11:30 p.m. (GMT) Tuesday.

    β€œThe Airmen of the 380th Air Expeditionary Wing mourn the loss of a true American hero in the service of his country,” said Col. Darryl Burke, 380th Air Expeditionary Wing commander.

    The name of the pilot will be withheld until notification of next of kin.

    The pilot completed flying a mission in support of Operation Enduring Freedom and was returning to base when the crash occurred.

    The cause of the crash is not known. An investigation board will determine its cause.

    An interim investigation board president has been appointed by the wing commander of the 380th Air Expeditionary Wing. A full investigation board will convene to continue the investigation.

    The site of the crash has been secured to ensure the safety of local citizens and the integrity of the site for investigation team members.

    in reply to: Pakistan Air Force #2627202
    JonS
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    Star49
    sigh were does it actually say grifo-m is as capable as apg-68??? all it talks about is Grifo-F being as capable as apg-68 even thou the 2nd link you posted suggested there were problems with grifo-f and says its better than apg-66 (but doesnt say were it could be superior tracks or greater avail modes fyi). Unless you have proof to refute mavaustin’s link or my info from finmecca IMO grifo-m’s detection range is around 54 km because thats what most of sources have run into have said .

    in reply to: Su-30MKI uses El-Op HUD #2627363
    JonS
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    so whats the advtange of one vs the other?

    JonS
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    Don’t get so excited, Dagestan still may get Palma, it’s scheduled to be operational only in 2007, anything can happen.
    Currently the ships which have been nominated as possibles for Palma are the new corvette 20380 and the new frigate 22350.
    There is no doubt, that currently the most advanced and potent missile/gun CIWS is Kashtan/KashtanM. Palma is a cheaper sidekick which can be installed in smaller ships, an opt-electronic Kashtan without reloads 😎

    20380 corvette has kashtan along with 2 ak-630s.

    JonS
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    what interview?

    in reply to: Mauritius Coast Guard #2043407
    JonS
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    NCG info

    The mission of the 350-member Mauritian Coast Guard (MCG) is to ensure the safety of Mauritian fisherman, prevent smuggling, and protect the marine environment. The MCG inventory includes two Soviet-built surveillance craft, the CGS Rescuer, and the CGS Retriever. Both vessels carry cannons with 1,000-meter-plus precise-target air or marine-surface strike capability. On March 30, 1993, the MCG purchased a 210-ton Indian-built seaward defense boat. This vessel is armed with two Bofors 40/60 guns and carries a thirty-two-member crew. Acquisition of this boat improved the MCG’s coastal surveillance capability. An Indian naval officer commands the MCG; an unknown number of MCG personnel have received training from Indian naval instructors.

    Official NCG website

    Name of vessel Type of vessel Date commissioned
    1.CGS Vigilant Off shore patrol 27 Jun 96
    2.CGS Guardian Seaward Defence 22 Apr 93
    3.CGS Rescuer Zhuk 17 Jan 90
    4.CGS Retriever Zhuk 17 Jan 90
    5.CGV Castor Mandovi 17 Jul 90
    6.CGV Polaris Mandovi 17 Jul 90
    7.CGV Marlin Mandovi 24 Jul 87
    8.CGV Barracuda Mandovi 24 Jul 87
    9.Heavy duty boat Aluminium hull

    in reply to: Pakistan Air Force #2627655
    JonS
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    Grifo is more derived from APG-68
    the Grifo-F on Singaporean F-5 has range of 75 KM. Griof-M is bigger than that. these are offered for F-16 upgrades.

    your point being that max range the link i posted already said it can detect 1000 m2 targets at 110 km. How is that anyway suggesting anything new apg-68 dectection range for 5m2 sized targets is 54 km.

    JonS
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    i doubt IAF will look procure PAC-3 or Antey or Arrow currently, the mainly priority right know is to fix air defense grid it makes little sense trying to purchase missile defense system right know till vintage soviet SAMs are replaced. First look for IAF to purchase spyder or vl-mica for shorad and akash for medium range SAM.

    JonS
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    Hyperwarp:have seen rice lamp notation used with that.

    The search/surveillance radar for the Type 730 may be or all of the three used in conjunction—MA Fregat and Positiv-Mineral ME in the 052B; the Positiv/Mineral ME and the phase arrays used in the 052C and an unidentified radar on the top mast of the 052C.

    positiv radar? its the mneral radar is it not anyway as for unidentified radar i believe its part of mineral ME.

    JonS
    Participant

    looks like two back to back radar…
    is this the mineral me radar?

    yeap courtesy of milparade.

    JonS
    Participant

    I thought the 730 had both an independant radar and a electro optics fitted right ontop of the gun…?

    730 should be betten in performance than the AK-630 as the AK is only fitted with the new frigates while the new destroyers were all fitted with 730. You’d think if AK was infact better in performance that PLAN would not choose the 730 for the new destroyers…

    like the AK the 730 have 7 barrows instead of the 6 on the Phalanx…

    thats tracking radar Rice lamp aka RAN-20/SPG-74? not a search radar so dont what chinese use for that purpose. Russians typically use large surv radars for theirs, positiv for ak-630s/Kashtan i believe they devoloped phased array version of positiv for kashtan-m1. As for type 730 vs ak-630 it depends, latter was designed to cheap quantity vs quality.

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