WTF? 13 year old teenagers? The Chinese forums and military watchers DID a lot more to reveal about Chinese military development than the Pentagon. As for journalists, well, you’er talking about international defense journals like Jane’s and US think tanks. Tell me how is your competency compared to them, HMM? You’re full of complete bull as if your nationalistic jealousy complex from the BR forums could understand the difference. The HQ-7 with reloader takes up quite a bit of space since previously, you cannot fit that on a Jiangwei frigate, but something as big as a Luhu destroyer. The 054 can fit the reloading HQ-7. Maybe you have not see the reloading HQ-7 properly. Not only do you have the octel launcher, but you have the hatch on the back with the reloader.

The FACT is that the ship shown with the VLS Shtils is unmistakenly a 054. The outline and the superstructure cannot be mistaken. As if you think you know better. Sheesh. Don’t give me a laugh. If you have no business in knowing better, go elsewhere, since we don’t take BS from a nitwit like you.

nationalistic jealousy complex lol this coming from you, all u can resort to childish name calling, trying to incite flame wars and BS with little fact to back you up. I just expressed my opinion that 054a looks enlargened with little or no fact other no facts to back to up you claim that i am completly wrong, you need to learn to seperate opinions from fact. Anyway you know claim that 54 is same size 54a because it looks similar to it you do realise thats a model which doesnt really seem to built to scale. Just like a while back you made the claim that there will be no rbu-1000 on it because you say so.

The hq-7 launcher is roughly 3 meters longer (similar to length cotale/hq-7 canister round) and the hatch is roughly same length as well. So you are telling me that a row 12 vls cells of shtil-1 take up less space in length than ~ 6 meters.

edit:datafuser,
thanks for the info couldnt translate what the link said.
Also it would nice if mod goes thru and deletes last few posts since this fully off topic and knowing you’re childish mentality you will resort to more naming calling. Rather than an intelligent discussion.

I believe they are saying 13 hardpoints possible with Multiple Ejector Racks. That would make sense. 9 actual hardpoints plus 4 more as MERs. The MKI can have 14 HPs with MERs.

yeah i also thought they were multi racks but there is no mention of them for Mig-29 and doesnt 4 sound too many? also i dont see were they can all be placed. I was thinking more along the lines of 3 (with 2 multi racks) under fueselage hard points increased from 9-41 Mig-29ks 1 hardpoint and 8 under wing hard points.

UAEF M-2000 photo is truely spectacular especially the sun’s reflection in the glass cockpit.

F22P (Guess this should go to the PN thread)

PN news section is locked too much flaming, so whats that weapon system in the aft by the ak-630? Also i see knife rest radar? whats up PLAN and its fascination with A band/VHF radar seeing it on even 52 class DDGs these days. i mean surely they have access to better radar than that like the Sea tiger?

thats still a quite a lot i guess media needs something to whine about anyway i believe those facts are wrong dont have time to look up each one just looking at AGM-84s:

58 AGM-84 Harpoons for ground targets

taiwan purchased 38 Harpoons in 1992, ordered 52 in 1997, 58 in 1998 (which is were they got that no i guess), 71 in 2001, 22 in 2003. Also it purchased around 500 gaberial IIs and there is also HF-II, so thats a lot of AshM right there. Even if it were to use 12 harpoon for each PLAN vessel there is enough to sink the whole fleet with AGM-84s alone.

Three way for T-23 ffg

Belgium, Chile and Pakistan are vying to acquire three UK Royal Navy (RN) Type 23 frigates being offered for sale overseas as a result of force reductions announced in 2004. All three nations are pursuing negotiations with the UK Ministry of Defence’s Disposals Services Agency (DSA), now part of the Defence Logistics Organisation, with a final decision on the ships’ sale expected within the next few months.

Chile has long been viewed as the most likely buyer for the Type 23s, having expressed a strong interest in acquiring all three ships being paid off by the RN and being first to the negotiating table. However, while the Chilean Navy has remained keen to pursue an acquisition, government delays in approving funding have seen Belgium and Pakistan enter the fray.

Informed sources have told JNI that the three putative deals all have competing merits according to their immediate sale value, the long-term value to UK industry and the ‘defence diplomacy’ benefit to the UK government. As a result, it is anticipated that a final decision on the sale will be taken at ministerial level.

RD-333 is RD-43 or VK-10m according to venik it can generate upto 98-118 kn of thrust (other reports said 98 kn different version maybe). I believe it was to power LFS or Mig-29SMT-II or can retrofitted on earliar Mig-29. Probably can raise the MTOW to about 23.5 tons if fitted with it.