JonSactually there is no indication at this point that they have managed to increase non-afterburning thrust of RD series engines. afterburning is increased surely but that is not a big factor for strike fighter range. also there is no evidence.that proposed MIG-29K is any lighter than even base line MIG-29A. on the contrary all data suggests that is alot heavier.
F-16block50 came some 15 years ago so hardly any achievment and with MIG-29 having even less payload than F-16 for twin engine fighter.
do you even know what you are talking about 9-41 is powered by 3rd series RD-33 while current 29K is powered by RD-33MK which generates 9 tons of thrust and has improved fuel efficency (there is plans for 10 ton variant). As for Empty weight care to point the source that told u its heavier than 29A epsecially considering mig-29k proposed hasnt flown yet.
As for its payload F-16 single engine design greatly favors large combat load (thanks to its wing design), payload is even greater than F-18 E which is newer than F-16 block 50 and comparable to the flanker but its rather dubious stat since with max payload F-16 wont be able to carry much internal fuel unlike either F-18 or Mig-29.
JonSit is not much better. at most 1800km on internal fuel for MIG-29K from http://www.rusarm .ru.
those are stats for 9-41 Mig-29k not the proposed Mig-29k for the IN (more powerful engine, lighter body, 4 opposed to 3 ETs etc).
Anyway still 2000 km range is similar to F-16 block 50 and ferry range are quite similar as well.
JonSactually algerian (and also morroco) economy has been growing quite well, currently has military spending of 2.3 billion (highest in africa).
JonSB-52 is not comparable to those system both of which maritime patrol/strike aircrafts anyway its nothing new it has been reported since late 90s attempts by china to purchase those and as well India’s attempts to procure more bears and Tu-22m3 . A while back I believe PLAN tried to procure some Mays or Bear aircrafts but the russian asking price was too hi so negotiations went no where.
Currently russians are requiring that those systems will be supplied only if the countries sign paperwork to agree to russia royalty demands (no reverse engineering not even of parts, only russia can upgrade those platforms if not and a foreign firm is used they get royalties etc). I believe india just signed such an agreement not sure of china.
JonSUH-1?
its says aircraft not helicopter? it would make sense thou as for c-130 a few are operated of by IrAF but they are used for reconnasiance?
edit:according to cnn Five presumed dead 4 GIs, 1 iraqi ilink
JonSSo your’e saying 80% as capable as F-16A, before you said air-to-air capability?
and is Strike capability is not the only Air-to-Air thing you usually measures, offcourse F-16 has better Strike capabilities, mainly because it has a more powerfull engine.
i assume they refering to air to air capability because f-16A wasnt designed to have ground attack capabilities. I doubt a engine with 20k lbs of thrust would increase its payload a whole lot anyway unless they managed to find a engine with very good t/w ratio and more fuel efficiency a more powerful engine means means a bigger engine,more fuel. Reason why rd-93 was choosen was because of relative cheap price tag which is a key objective in this project.
JonSphrozenflame,
well thats what brochure said 80% as capable as F-16A. As for its payload it has empty weight of 6.3 tons and mtow of 12.7 tons?
So thats gives what 5 tons of capacity (with rest being pilots,gear and subsystems). If it were to carry max internal fuel (2.4 tons) it has less than 2.7 tons for its payload which doesnt really leave much room for drop tanks or bombs. In other words aircraft doesnt much strike capability.
JonStaken from a earliar topic on FC-1
The overall inlet design, called a diverterless supersonic inlet or DSI, moved from concept to reality when it was installed and flown on a Block 30 F-16 in a highly successful demonstration program.
The new inlet showed slightly better subsonic specific excess power than a production inlet and that verified the overall system benefits of eliminating the diverter. Test pilots remarked that military power settings and thrust characteristics were very similar to standard production F-16 aircraft with the same General Electric F110-GE-129 engine. Considering the overall goal of the flight test program was to demonstrate the viability of this advanced inlet technology, the results were excellent.
The DSI bump functions as a compression surface and creates a pressure distribution that prevents the majority of the boundary layer air from entering the inlet at speeds up to Mach 2. In essence, the DSI does away with complex and heavy mechanical systems.
The DSI concept was introduced into the JAST/JSF program as a trade study item in mid-1994. It was compared with a traditional “caret” style inlet. The trade studies involved additional CFD, testing, and weight and cost analyses. The new inlet earned its way into the JSF design after proving to be thirty percent lighter and showing lower production and maintenance costs over traditional inlets while still meeting all performance requirements.
JonSwell even chengdu or w/e its called says its barely as capable as F-16A in Air to Air capability and you are claiming it is better than F-16. The plane can barely achieve range of 1200 km with couple AAMs its nothing more than interceptor and has limited or no strike capability.
JonSIndia already rejected the P-3 and C-130. They were satisfied with P-3, not C-130j. The work on MTA (iL-214) seems to be going ok. The first test flight is going to be in 2007.
IN said no P-3B, i dont recall IAF ever saying no C-130j in fact i dont think they are currently seriously looking for MTA. Anyway here is info on il-214 along with video.
Also there is 2 other russian transport aircrafts under devolopment
Tu-330
An-70
JonSAnybody got more info on Indo-Russian joint project ?
havent heard anything about the IL-214 in 5 years i am guessing that idea was dropped or in back burner awaiting funding. Consdering how US is making strong push for the C-130s i am latter will be purchased.
JonShuh? IN does have marcos
JonSnow this is interesting.
actually it will be fitted with phalanx, pakistan just ordered 6 more of them.
JonSCan you put in a link to where you found this on the internet?
lol just right click on that image its from indiadefence, nothing new about that they had a even small frontal version of that image up 6 months back.
http://www.indiadefence.com/Ads1.jpg
The two frigates of Shivalik Class, indigenously built by MDL, were in an advanced stage of “outfitting” and would be inducted into service from 2007, MDL Chairman and Managing Director, Rear Admiral R M Bhatia, told mediapersons here on Monday.
so i am guessing that all 3 P-17s will inducted close together in 2007?
sameer
Are they upgrading the Delhis? or is the Admiral talking about work at MDL starting for the Bangalore class ships?
yes its P-15A. the first was supposed to be launched this may as well along with 3rd P-17 but wonder why the delay?
JonSMazagaon Dock to launch third stealth ship on Friday
The Mazagaon Dock Ltd is all set to launch the third of the P-17 Stealth frigate on May 27, Chairman and Managing Director of MDL Rear Admiral R M Bhatia, said here yesterday.The third warship will be released into water by Kumkum Prakash, wife of Admiral Arun Prakash, the Chief of Naval Staff, Bhatia told reporters. The ship is the same design as the two previous ones that were launched earlier and said minor changes or modifications have taken place in the latest ship, he said adding there has been no change in the weaponary of the ship . The stealth frigate is designed to avoid enemy radars and and works on principles of reducing the ship’s signature, he said. The ship will be fitted with a mix of Indian, Russian and Western weaponry systems alongwith both air defence and anti-submarine warfare capabilities. It will also carry two advanced helicopters. The total length of the ship is 142.5 metres while its breadth is 16.90 metres. The total displacement of the ship is 4900 tonnes.
It will be powered by gas and diesel turbines, Bhatia said. Standing next to it definitely makes one feel like a puny creature yet it is said to be the most techno savvy and compact warship of its kind. These warships are capable of speeds in excess of 30 knots. He further said the MDL has started work on two Delhi class destroyers and said the work on third such ship will begin soon. The first ship of the class Shivalik was launched on April 18, 2003 and the second ship Satpura on June 04, 2004. Mazagaon dock was established in 1771. At that point in time it was a small dry dock, which used to cater to the demands of the British. It was only in 1960 that the government of India took it over. In the year 2000 it was upgraded to schedule ‘A’company.
Mazagon dock takes part in a variety of activities such as ship repairs for the Indian navy, submarine and heavy engineering. Stealth warships, so called because enemy radars etc cannot easily detect it. Fact remains that India till date has not exported a single warship. Yet it is one of the very few countries to build submarines and stealth warships. MDL has exported about 80 other ships the last being to France.
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