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  • in reply to: Project 17A Frigate for India #2078167
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    P-28s were procured mainly to maintain surface combatant numbers due to problems with P-17 construction also IN is moving away from missile corvette’s so there is no further plan to procure any more of tarantula class.

    Seaking can carry sea eagle and tender should be out soon for both their replacement so that combination should address the AShW weakness. For what i understand it cost 20+ million just to equip tarantula’s with Uran couple years ago so they are saving money on that.

    in reply to: Project 17A Frigate for India #2078201
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    in reply to: Project 17A Frigate for India #2078237
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    Is the fwd STGR also controlling the maingun?

    there are 2 BEL Shikari (licene built RAN-trackers) they provide guidance for the main gun as well the ak-630 in the rear. Interesting note is that there is no STGR which indicates that they have integrated to provide command illumination for barak.

    I believe those torpedo tubes are 324 mm similar to Brahmaptura’s?
    http://drdo.org/pub/techfocus/oct2000/underwater.htm

    in reply to: Project 17A Frigate for India #2078286
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    falcon? where do you get that info from they do not even look similar to each other (falcon is stealthier plus slightly smaller compared to this).

    in reply to: Project 17A Frigate for India #2078295
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    Thanks Victor. Unfortunately there were no brochures nor posters except the model itself about the corvette.

    I think you are talking about these (on the attachment). They seem to be some kind of decoy launchers, I think.

    The overall design resembles Soviet corvette trends, I think. It does not seem so innovative, IMHO.

    There design is indigenous based on the OPV that are also being built. do not think any russian firm was consulted for this unlike P-17 or P-15A.
    http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/NOPV.html

    in reply to: Project 17A Frigate for India #2078310
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    I believe those are the decoy launchers from Rafael by FCR radar. Notice the radar is indigenous radar not fregat shown in the CGI. The mount is oto mount but they used to earlier model for it i believe P-28 will stealth encasing similar to CGI design. These vessels are designed to cheap ASW vessels cost something like 140 million each so no Klub or even Uran for Ashm. Anyway interesting they have 2 RBU-6000 even talwar has only one.

    in reply to: Project 17A Frigate for India #2078346
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    The Club system is quite versatile, with 4 different missiles. The AShM variants should not be underestimated and Brahmos not overestimated. I wonder is Brahmos uses the same VL launcher as Club. If so, then maximum flexibility is achieved.

    Klub’s Universal launch VLS system is supposed to be capable of firing Yakhont based on documents however do not if that applies to Brahmos due to manufacturer and other issues. Also VLS system used for Brahmos is built in India by L&T and it looks different than the ones in Talwar.

    As for P-17A there was report couple months back that discussion are on for another block of Talwar from russian source do not if they confused the 2nd block of orders with that. With recen line drawings of new russian FFG hitting the web wonder if russia will also participate in P-17A tender.

    in reply to: MOSAIC Corvette Design #2078466
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    Any ideas on the radar used by missile corvette version bit unusual it has 30 mm oto as well a goalkeeper.

    in reply to: Project 17A Frigate for India #2078514
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    Although the P17s will have a good weapon complement of around 30+ Shtil, 16 Barak-1, 8 3M-14E missiles, A244S torops, RBU-6000, and 76mm SRGM and two Kashtans. The fact that a ship coming out in 2009 with an arm launched SAM is a bit disappointing.
    I guess, the AD layers of the P17s will be 0-5km covered by Kashtans, 5-15km covered by Barak, 15-30km covered by Shtils.

    no Kashtan’s for P-17s most likely be 2 Ak-630 and 2 barak 16 cell launchers. However there are reports that weapon suite was changed which delayed it further, so they might have Vl-shtil rather than a arm launcher then again it could be because of brahmos.

    in reply to: J-10 versus LCA-AESA #2551005
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    i doubt its MTOW is greater than 20 tons considering its powered by AL-31F which generates 27.5k thrust? By comparison latest gen of F110 generate 32.5k thrust

    in reply to: J-10 versus LCA-AESA #2551164
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    what is J-10 empty and max takeoff weight i have yet to see accurate figures on that.

    in reply to: Indian Missile news and speculations #1810177
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    [color=red]Just because he throws one at you doesn’t mean you have the right to violate the same rules in response[/color]

    in reply to: Indian Missile news and speculations #1810183
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    If the video clearly states that it uses INS for midflight and then JonS make a stupid comment WITHOUT watching the video (from OEM source)

    What does INS have to do with targeting you do know that ships can move :confused: in 5 min span a vessel can be anywhere in 50 km area.

    in reply to: Indian Missile news and speculations #1810205
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    George, most ashm missiles do that they determine the loc of the target at certain range at altitude of around 100 ft for example before the engaging in terminal phase. Only thing here is that brahmos does it at higher altitude and longer range (air launched moskit and shipwreck however do the same thing).

    in reply to: Indian Missile news and speculations #1810223
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    where the CEO himself is explaining how the AShM version works and it is CLEARLY stated how it flies with INS and seeker off for a most of its flight and turns on its seeker for a “fraction of a second” to make corrections (if thats not LPI what is it?).

    lol thats not LPI that just seeker making sure the target is on location, because at the high altitude it can clearly spot were the targets are. When it starts flying lo (thanks to clutter and horizon) its radar range/seeker capability are greatly diminished.

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