Didn’t she work with that throughout 2008 in anti-drug ops in the Carribean?

Not sure, first I heard about it was on this post.

http://cdrsalamander.blogspot.com/search?q=awww+isn%27t+she+cute

Recent pics show her with no launcher arm and no STIR. WOnder if that will be the configuration in which she will be delivered.

I’ve talked to some FFG sailors recently, apparently only the launcher arm was removed, the internal equipment is still there but in layup. The STIR equipment was removed but the platform and cabling is still in place. So it wouldn’t take that much effort to reinstall the launcher arm, the STIR and it’s associated electronics and then test it all.

Fed: Mate I can not honestly see any OHP’s going to the PN, though anything can and usually does happen! Sure these ships are old and are great GP vessels, the fact that they are old is what counts them out of the PN inventory.

FF”G”-8 is going to Pakistan after it finishes it’s next deployment.
Which is sad because they just installed a bunch of equipment to trial Fire Scout on the Perry class.

Until something official comes out (rather than just a blog, even if it is one of my favorite naval blogs) it is just rumor. :rolleyes:

Honestly, in my opinion (and think of it what you like), all the current (new) generation “destroyers” such as the Burkes, Atago’s, Horizon’s and Darings should be classified as Cruisers rather then destroyers, with the large frigates such as the type 22 & 23 and the Perry’s being classified as destroyers.

One of the real operational differences between a Burke and a Tico is that the Tico’s have much better facilities for flag officers and battle group command staff, those facilities are absent on a Burke. You can embark a DESRON or higher on a Burke but it is a cramped fit.
If those other ships have the extra facilities then I’d group them into the cruiser class, but if they don’t then they are just big destroyers.

If I had to guess I’d think he’s hung up on the fact that modern ships have extended areas of constant hull width and that somehow that means they can’t be cruisers. Certainly the only thing unique about that Long Beach shot is it shows the constant curvature from bow to stern. If shown that the Kirov in fact has parallel sides for a good length of it’s hull no doubt he’d claim that it was the unusually high bow that made it a cruiser.

The only thing special I can find about the Long Beach hull was that it is basically a WW2 style cruiser hull, meaning it has some armor, that’s it.

Tha Bonco is a nice plane and one of my favourite. If it had to be produced again, I would love to see the French armed forces to buy some of them..

BTW, what were the Bronco’s take-off and landing distances without assistance ?

I’ve seen pics of them landing and taking off unassisted from US Amphib ships.

I think you have your wires crossed, I said I typed a response which was a waste of my time becasue you had already answered but I blamed that on me being stupid for not reading the thread through. I was also praising you as well, saying you explained it better then I could. In short there is no problem whatsoever apart from my inability to read a thread through first to see if someone has already answered a comment.

Oh ok, I thought you were being sarcastic, sorry I went off on you!
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