That’s the YJ-12 supersonic cruise missile.
H-6s are usually armed with larger missiles than JH-7s. Going back to the days of H-6D. Arming the big H-6G with the same YJ-83 as JH-7, even if H-6G can carry 4 vs 2, never made much sense. Perhaps there is a large version of the missile with Mach4/400KM performance specifically for the H-6, while a smaller version with less range for JH-7 and J-15/16.
Let me kindly ask you …
Do your comments has anything related to J-15, Russia or China?
Do they add anything to the discussion at hand?
As I told you earlier, our crispy miscreant started this ridiculous thread for only one purpose, to smear China’s image and stir up hatred. Most of Bacon’s threads are similar. Therefore it is a public service to steer the conversation away from the original topic.
Now let’s get back to India. You claimed that it is in India’s long term interest to “play by the rules” which also includes pretending to be a democracy. Yet time and again, India have been sold substandard weapons at high cost which no other country would take. After you’ve been screwed so many time, is it not time to ask who made these “rules” and for what reason? Ask yourself, what would Gandhi do? play by the rules? What would Jesus do? play by the rules?
It seems to me too many of our Indian brothers are content to play the white men’s game. Seeking to gain Western respectability by playing by their rules. Whereas the Chinese have always been secure in their own self-worth, unpolluted by centuries of colonialism.
since we are on the subject, will Sikorsky receive royalties or fees too? 😉
Z20 is as much a copy of UH-60 as A320 is a 737 copy.
Actually one doesn’t even need any knowledge about PLAN, just a functioning brain (ie, not completely brainwashed), to be able to tell that article is complete BS.
Take this paragraph “The fighter can take off and land on the carrier with two YJ-83K anti-ship missiles, two PL-8 air-to-air missiles, and four 500-kilogram bombs. But a weapons “load exceeding 12 tons will not get it off the carrier’s ski jump ramp.” This might prohibit it from carrying heavier munitions such as PL-12 medium-range air-to-air missiles.”
what kind of mission calls for two antiship missiles and four dumb bombs?
Why does the author claim J-15 can carry the much heavier YJ-83 but not the lighter medium range AAM?
western readers have to brainwashed for years with the baseless claim that planes can’t take off with MTOW from STOBAR carrier. commies built it so it must suck!
Does the USN openly publish its ROE with regard to foreign warships engaged in shadowing and surveillance?
The original poster posed a question so ridiculous, it is a public service to go off topic in this thread.
Why is it that anytime someone point something wrong with India, the excuse is always oh that’s because we are a democracy. If democracy is the cause of so many problems, perhaps it is time for some changes. Or is democracy just used by Indians as a marketing slogan to woo foolish Westerners? I recently read an Indian scholar write “The democracy card is played for whatever it is worth, precisely to make the point that India could be a completely acceptable member of this group of global powers.” That’s pretty honest. To India, democracy is really a card to be played to appear respectable.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naxalite%E2%80%93Maoist_insurgency
Take a look at map in that link. To me, it looks like roughly a third of the country is affected by the Marxist insurgence. Really, a Marxist insurgence in a major country in the 21st century! People who feel they have a voice in their government don’t become Marxist rebels.
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Does this look like a solidly based democracy? This person is likely the next Indian PM. emphasis on “born Hindu”, that’s like an American candidate saying “vote for me because I’m white”. The irony is Modi’s ruling style has been characterized as Chinese-like. So perhaps the Indian people do want to become more like China.
Whoa, you sound like you are actually proud of getting screwed by everyone.
India has two models of weapons development.
1) “Indigenous” – drags on for decades until the product is obsolete before mass production even begins. result, Babus get fat, the country get nothing.
2) “Joint Development” – you pay a foreign country to develop weapons for you. they get the money, develop their technology base, and keep all the IP. result, Babus get fat, the country get nothing.
the difference between Chinese corruption and Indian corruption is that Chinese babus may pocket some money but the country at least get something too. Indian people are just getting screwed for free, by foreigners, by their own government.
This is in the news. A perfect example. http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/india-israel-introducing-mr-sam-03461/
So India paid for the development of Barak-8. Israel is putting the missile into service, but nobody knows when India will start producing it. Basically Indian industry is so backward, it can’t make the missile even with blueprints, and the Israeli point at the contract and say teaching you how to make it is not part of the agreement. That’s what happens when you can “buy latest equipment from anywhere in the world”, you don’t develop your own industrial base, even to the point where you can at least make top shelf weapons when given the blueprints. The French are too smart get into a contract that requires them to teach Indian industry how to make Rafales, because they know how hopeless that is.
Everyone is smarta** except India. We stick to our own basic rules, I believe in long term it is good. But that is another topic altogether.
What Indian rules? Babus get fat, the country get nothing?
Ukraine made some money. Russia didn’t offer a good deal, so the Chinese went to the Ukrainian. That’s how business works. Same with J-11B, Russia wanted China to stick to their upgrade path with Russian avionics and weapons. The Chinese rather put their own avionics and weapons on their own planes. That’s what smart countries do. F-15I anyone? If Russia want to make more money, they should offer better deals with better technologies. You can’t expect every country to be stupid like India.
I linked that in a post straight after hotdog’s starter lol
Apparently no one bothered to click the link
and miss a chance to bash the Chinese? I only miss a chance like that when I’m busy praying at Yasukuni Shrine.
Did you know the Chinese eat dogs?
Funny, I was thinking the UK should do an Aegis Equipped T-45.;)
the systems on T45 are at least one generation more advanced than Aegis ships, on a more seaworthy hull.
face it, the entire rational behind the Z class, stealthy ship with a high power radar system, is retarded.
haha, I just send the plan to my factory in China. We’ll be pumping out clones before you even finish the prototype. suckers.
We don’t get any publications in English relating to actual Chinese exercises or performance. These might be available in Chinese. I’m not sure if Chinese military journals are published or more likely if they’re available to Chinese public.
don’t really have the time to address all points.
just find the Chinese neighborhood closest to you. find a Chinese language bookstore, or even a Chinese supermarket with magazine shelf. you’ll see how wrong you are.
here is a yank’s take that both the RN carriers and SSBNs are built for pride.
http://www.informationdissemination.net/2013/07/sinking-entire-navy.html