Further details on the order…
India seems to be on a roll! Kingfisher A380….. absolutely absurd to me since they cannot fly international yet. A380 on domestic route???
I was thinking the same thing, but perhaps Kingfisher has been given assurances from the Indian government that by the time the aircraft are delivered they will have international clearance. :confused:
We already have a thread started on this topic: Boeing 747 Advanced (Merged)
Good call, US Agent. I’ve merged the two now.
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Who knows?
Maybe they’re discounted as much as all those Ryanair B737-800s, eh? 🙂
Yeah, but O’Leary at least got some free t-shirts out of that deal….

Boeing gets more optimistic on demand for large airliners
Manufacturer boosts long-term forecast for sales of 400 seaters and above
Flight International
14-June-05
Boeing has significantly increased its market forecast for large airliners for the first time since the 1990s as it foresees greater demand for 747-size aircraft and larger.
Speaking at the launch of Boeing’s 2005 Current Market Outlook (CMO), which covers the period from 2005 to 2024, vice-president marketing Randy Baseler said that the company has upped its forecast for aircraft with 400 seats and above, and “large freighters” (with payloads greater than 65t), from 790 units last year to 900, comprising 590 new passenger aircraft and 310 new freighters. He added that the 15% increase in its demand forecast “is largely driven by the growth we’ve being seeing in Asia during the last year”.
The 900 units are split roughly 50/50 between the 747 category (400-500 seats) and the A380 (500 seats and above). Airbus predicts a market for 1,650 airliners/freighters in the 450-seat and above category over the next 20 years.
Last year, Boeing revised its forecast for the large-aircraft category downwards by around 20% from 970 in 2003. Baseler denied that the sudden increased optimism was connected to the fact that Boeing is preparing to launch a stretched 747 derivative, the 450-seat Advanced. The CMO predicts 25,700 new aircraft will be delivered over the next 20 years, worth $2,100 billion.
747 Advanced launch slips
Flight International
14-June-05
Boeing has pushed back its planned launch of the Boeing 747 Advanced from its previous mid-year target by several months, but remains confident that it will secure airline backing for the stretched aircraft.
“We expect commitments from carriers and industrial launch before year-end,” said Boeing vice-president marketing Randy Baseler at last week’s launch of its 2005 Current Market Outlook. “A lot of the airlines we’ve spoken to have indicated that they want to make a decision by late summer/early autumn, so we’ve pushed our target back from mid-year.” He added that Boeing wants to launch the passenger and freighter versions together.
60 A350s huh???
With no industrial offsets???
I can only imagine how LOW they cut the price for those A330 “warm-overs”. :rolleyes:
Yeah, if ONLY looks could kill… 😀
The M.I.C. ( military industrial complex ) is going to have to pull a rabbit out of their hat if they want Boeing.
Or maybe not…
[EADS] is currently bidding against Boeing for the future tanker project for the US Air Force. Analysts have speculated that while Boeing would probably not be allowed a clear run at the US$50 billion deal, owing largely to recent procurement issues involving the company, EADS may find their bid will struggle.
Very interesting numbers. Some however seem rather conflicting with Boeing’s previous statement. In particular their claims about very large planes:
At the moment only the A380 can carry over 500 passengers (not counting the 747D). Does this mean that Boeing acknowledges the A380 will be succesful?
I believe Boeing has decided to go ahead with the launch of the ‘747D’…(i.e. 747 Advanced)…and from what I understand it will have the capability to be configured with a capacity of over 500 seats. With this in mind, its safe to assume they intend to garner their share of the 500+ passenger airliner market, so I do not believe Boeing is acknowledging anything to the effect that they believe the A380 will be a success.
Bummer…hope you reconsider…if not, good luck to you sir.
LOL…well, there is the proposed CSeries. 😉
Is that not unavoidable ? I mean there are only A and B. left as commercial airplane manufactures in the western world. And nearly everything boils down to it.
That’s the way I see it too.
Until there is a C… A vs B is unavoidable.
All Nippon Airways Co., Asia’s second- largest airline by sales, said it may use Boeing Co.’s 777-300ER aircraft to replace 53 of its largest airplanes, passing over the A380 model made by Airbus SAS.

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