To all of the anti-Americans on this thread (mostly Europeans from the way it looks*)…until you act decisively to root out all terrorists living among you and either lock them up or hand them over to the US…your comments are nothing more than that of appeasers…just hallow rhetoric coming from irrelevant has-beens.
*UK, Spain and Poland not included…possibly a few others.
To all of the anti-Americans on this thread (mostly Europeans from the way it looks*)…until you act decisively to root out all terrorists living among you and either lock them up or hand them over to the US…your comments are nothing more than that of appeasers…just hallow rhetoric coming from irrelevant has-beens.
*UK, Spain and Poland not included…possibly a few others.
Originally posted by Geforce
Also, I think that USAgent is not worth the conversation. Even on this board, there are more moderate Americans. Talk to them and forget about this guy. Getting angry only makes him smile even more. Fat chance he’s not even an American, but the opposite and he just posts stupid comments to make the US look bad. We had that once, but it was an Indian making himself look like a Pakistani I think.
Uh, NO….quite the contrary….US Agent is…
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Not all of us Yanks are ‘blame America first’ liberals…sorry to burst your bubble.
Originally posted by Geforce
Also, I think that USAgent is not worth the conversation. Even on this board, there are more moderate Americans. Talk to them and forget about this guy. Getting angry only makes him smile even more. Fat chance he’s not even an American, but the opposite and he just posts stupid comments to make the US look bad. We had that once, but it was an Indian making himself look like a Pakistani I think.
Uh, NO….quite the contrary….US Agent is…
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Not all of us Yanks are ‘blame America first’ liberals…sorry to burst your bubble.
Originally posted by dhfan
I would have thought with arrogant know-alls like USagent it was bl**dy obvious.
The US has managed to unite the world. Everybody hates them (except Blair).
<— dhfan
Originally posted by dhfan
I would have thought with arrogant know-alls like USagent it was bl**dy obvious.
The US has managed to unite the world. Everybody hates them (except Blair).
<— dhfan
PLAdog
Originally posted by plawolf
us agentis it just u, or do all americans missuse words to the extent that many words are now used to discribe things that are nothing like their explanations in the dictionary?
if u class the use of force under any circumstance as ‘bullying’
No, that’s not how I define it…that’s what you made up in order to make your argument stronger…nice try. 😉
then the PRC is as guilty as charged (along with every other gov on earth, every gov that ever was and ever gov that ever will be).
the way i class ‘bullying’ is making unreasonable demands on another without any serious intent to negociate because u are more militarily powerful. the PRC has not done that.
Bullying:
1 : to treat abusively
2 : to affect by means of force or coercion
intransitive senses : to use browbeating language or behavior : “BLUSTER”…synonym see “INTIMIDATE”When the CCP/PLA uses its new aircraft and/or naval vessels to intimidate the Philippines, Vietnam, etc into giving up its claims on territories in the S. China Sea…it is because they have been unsuccessful in negotiating…nothing more. Stop trying to justify this type of behavior. In your twisted brain, you condemn the US, yet condone the CCP…you are a hypocrite.
all of the miliatry incidents that have occured in the south china sea only occured because the other side refused to negotiate (or did negotiate, but without any intention to resolve the dispute). under these circumstances, if we dont wished to give up our claims, then we must fight for them. isnt this the way the world works? isnt this the way u made the world work? dont blame us for playing by the rules u set just because we arent loosing.
If the Chicoms fv*k with the US they will LOSE…you can take that to the bank.
oh ps, that 88 incident with vietnam in which 3 vietnam warships were sunk, the PLAN actually had the weaker force, as the vietnamese had more heavy(more powerful) ships. its kinda difficult to ‘bully’ others with a materially inferior force dont u think?
Nice propoganda…did you learn that one in “Chicom History: 101”? :rolleyes:
“Are you speaking about Taiwan here? It seems to me that you are…
CCP to Taiwan: “You are illegally occupying CCP land…if you do not return it to us we will use force to take it back….disarm yourselves so we can invade you more easily.””
no, more like iraq. Us to iraq: ‘get rid of all ur WMD or we bomb u’. iraq gets rid of WMD, US bombs and invade iraq anyways, just more easily.
That’s total…
as for the rest of that quote, well, the PRC NEVER questioned the ppl living on taiwan’s right to be there, just their status. nor have we demended that they disarm themselves. maybe we should start selling fighters and subs etc to cuba, see how u like it when an arms dump appears on ur front door.
Feel free…they can pay you in bananas.
oh, btw, u can only invade somewhere if is belongs to another nations. since both taiwan and chian agree that there is only one china, and that taiwan is a part of china, even if we attacked today, it still isnt invasion.
The government of Taiwan is the legitimate ruling body of China…the CCP is a dictatorship and must be toppled. Hopefully, the people of mainland China will revolt and make the is happen.
but u still dont get the point. what, u think everyone else are so stupid we can work out whats in our best intersets? attacking taiwan=destroying one of the strongest economies in the regoin if not the world. also, it would cost alot of money and lives on both sides. that would most like result in terriorsts attacks that would cost yet more lives and money. also, attacking taiwan now would destroy all the economic prosperity we have worked so hard to achieve.
So, if Taiwan declares independence, the mainland will not attack…right?
we have everything to loose and little to gain from attacking, so what the hell makes u think we’ll do it?- ur deluded, cold war-era idea that everyone but the USA is inherently evil, stupid and bent on world domonation thats what. and u wonder y no one likes u.
Nice rant…
…do you have a point? Of course you don’t…you’re either jealous or paranoid or both…and your comments are without merit, lack any substance and are nothing more than anti-American rhetoric.
PLAdog
Originally posted by plawolf
us agentis it just u, or do all americans missuse words to the extent that many words are now used to discribe things that are nothing like their explanations in the dictionary?
if u class the use of force under any circumstance as ‘bullying’
No, that’s not how I define it…that’s what you made up in order to make your argument stronger…nice try. 😉
then the PRC is as guilty as charged (along with every other gov on earth, every gov that ever was and ever gov that ever will be).
the way i class ‘bullying’ is making unreasonable demands on another without any serious intent to negociate because u are more militarily powerful. the PRC has not done that.
Bullying:
1 : to treat abusively
2 : to affect by means of force or coercion
intransitive senses : to use browbeating language or behavior : “BLUSTER”…synonym see “INTIMIDATE”When the CCP/PLA uses its new aircraft and/or naval vessels to intimidate the Philippines, Vietnam, etc into giving up its claims on territories in the S. China Sea…it is because they have been unsuccessful in negotiating…nothing more. Stop trying to justify this type of behavior. In your twisted brain, you condemn the US, yet condone the CCP…you are a hypocrite.
all of the miliatry incidents that have occured in the south china sea only occured because the other side refused to negotiate (or did negotiate, but without any intention to resolve the dispute). under these circumstances, if we dont wished to give up our claims, then we must fight for them. isnt this the way the world works? isnt this the way u made the world work? dont blame us for playing by the rules u set just because we arent loosing.
If the Chicoms fv*k with the US they will LOSE…you can take that to the bank.
oh ps, that 88 incident with vietnam in which 3 vietnam warships were sunk, the PLAN actually had the weaker force, as the vietnamese had more heavy(more powerful) ships. its kinda difficult to ‘bully’ others with a materially inferior force dont u think?
Nice propoganda…did you learn that one in “Chicom History: 101”? :rolleyes:
“Are you speaking about Taiwan here? It seems to me that you are…
CCP to Taiwan: “You are illegally occupying CCP land…if you do not return it to us we will use force to take it back….disarm yourselves so we can invade you more easily.””
no, more like iraq. Us to iraq: ‘get rid of all ur WMD or we bomb u’. iraq gets rid of WMD, US bombs and invade iraq anyways, just more easily.
That’s total…
as for the rest of that quote, well, the PRC NEVER questioned the ppl living on taiwan’s right to be there, just their status. nor have we demended that they disarm themselves. maybe we should start selling fighters and subs etc to cuba, see how u like it when an arms dump appears on ur front door.
Feel free…they can pay you in bananas.
oh, btw, u can only invade somewhere if is belongs to another nations. since both taiwan and chian agree that there is only one china, and that taiwan is a part of china, even if we attacked today, it still isnt invasion.
The government of Taiwan is the legitimate ruling body of China…the CCP is a dictatorship and must be toppled. Hopefully, the people of mainland China will revolt and make the is happen.
but u still dont get the point. what, u think everyone else are so stupid we can work out whats in our best intersets? attacking taiwan=destroying one of the strongest economies in the regoin if not the world. also, it would cost alot of money and lives on both sides. that would most like result in terriorsts attacks that would cost yet more lives and money. also, attacking taiwan now would destroy all the economic prosperity we have worked so hard to achieve.
So, if Taiwan declares independence, the mainland will not attack…right?
we have everything to loose and little to gain from attacking, so what the hell makes u think we’ll do it?- ur deluded, cold war-era idea that everyone but the USA is inherently evil, stupid and bent on world domonation thats what. and u wonder y no one likes u.
Nice rant…
…do you have a point? Of course you don’t…you’re either jealous or paranoid or both…and your comments are without merit, lack any substance and are nothing more than anti-American rhetoric.
Originally posted by alex
Do the Americans realise that much of the Western world – and for that matter a lot of Americans themselves – believe that the biggest threat to world peace is the USA?
Do the Yanks also know that a lot of people believe the Third World War will be started by the USA?
DO THE SAME PEOPLE REALISE THAT A LARGE PORTION OF THE WORLDS POPULATION TRUSTS CHINA AND RUSSIA WITH THEIR NUKES MORE THAN THE USA?
Rather interesting really.Only in your little fantasy world. :rolleyes:
I don’t trust the Yanks, never have and never will! They f***ed up my country with their political nonsense a long time ago and they continue to do so today.
If it were not for the US, your country (Bulgaria) would still be under the boot of Communism…actually, make that Facism.
The problem is, despite the constant polls on tv and riots in world wide cities…these pillocks still believe the world likes them…hahahahahahahahahahahah……………..WWWWWHHHhahahahahahahahah………..oh, god who dumb can u get????…….hahahahhaahahahahahhahahahahahahahahah…okay, okay I’ve stopped.
Message to the US – “The world hates u, now does us all a favour and F*** OFF!!!”
Sure, just as soon as you…
Originally posted by alex
Do the Americans realise that much of the Western world – and for that matter a lot of Americans themselves – believe that the biggest threat to world peace is the USA?
Do the Yanks also know that a lot of people believe the Third World War will be started by the USA?
DO THE SAME PEOPLE REALISE THAT A LARGE PORTION OF THE WORLDS POPULATION TRUSTS CHINA AND RUSSIA WITH THEIR NUKES MORE THAN THE USA?
Rather interesting really.Only in your little fantasy world. :rolleyes:
I don’t trust the Yanks, never have and never will! They f***ed up my country with their political nonsense a long time ago and they continue to do so today.
If it were not for the US, your country (Bulgaria) would still be under the boot of Communism…actually, make that Facism.
The problem is, despite the constant polls on tv and riots in world wide cities…these pillocks still believe the world likes them…hahahahahahahahahahahah……………..WWWWWHHHhahahahahahahahah………..oh, god who dumb can u get????…….hahahahhaahahahahahhahahahahahahahahah…okay, okay I’ve stopped.
Message to the US – “The world hates u, now does us all a favour and F*** OFF!!!”
Sure, just as soon as you…
Originally posted by Geforce
WMD is Saddam Hussein? Sp why did GWB said that SH could stay in charge IF he would disarm his WMD’s. BS!!!!!
Because he knew that Saddam wouldn’t disarm…its called “bluffing”…and a Texan knows how to do it better than anyone.
And he called the French-German-Belgian-Russian bluff too.
😎
Originally posted by Geforce
WMD is Saddam Hussein? Sp why did GWB said that SH could stay in charge IF he would disarm his WMD’s. BS!!!!!
Because he knew that Saddam wouldn’t disarm…its called “bluffing”…and a Texan knows how to do it better than anyone.
And he called the French-German-Belgian-Russian bluff too.
😎
Originally posted by plawolf
so what? we prefer negociations, but if the other side doesnt listen, we arent affraid to use force to protect our intersts. thats y there hasnt been a major incident in the south china sea for donkeys years. seeing how u see to support ur presidents goho attitude so much, u must apreciate the fact that if u dont back up ur words with action when appropriate, others are going to take that as a sign of weakness and become more bold and unreasonable in their demands.
So, you are giving credit to China for bullying its neighbors with military (and economic) blackmail huh? That’s fair I suppose. Just remember that for future discussions…you can’t condemn America for doing the same thing!
u seem to be getting reasonable use of force to protect national intrests (taking back land that was illegally occupied by another), and unreaonsable demands made with the threat of force if the other nation doesnt do as u say (disarm urself so we can invade u more easily).
Are you speaking about Taiwan here? It seems to me that you are…
CCP to Taiwan: “You are illegally occupying CCP land…if you do not return it to us we will use force to take it back….disarm yourselves so we can invade you more easily.”
:rolleyes:
oh, PS, just cos its on a website dont make it a fact. i assumed u knew that, but now im not too sure.
Those are respectable web sites…just as good a source for information as your beloved BBC.com or CCP newletter.
How about you find something to substantiate your claims that the CCP is a ‘kind and benevolent’ political entity and that the PLA is for defending the people and not an instrument for the CCP to use to put down demonstrations or revolution.
Originally posted by plawolf
so what? we prefer negociations, but if the other side doesnt listen, we arent affraid to use force to protect our intersts. thats y there hasnt been a major incident in the south china sea for donkeys years. seeing how u see to support ur presidents goho attitude so much, u must apreciate the fact that if u dont back up ur words with action when appropriate, others are going to take that as a sign of weakness and become more bold and unreasonable in their demands.
So, you are giving credit to China for bullying its neighbors with military (and economic) blackmail huh? That’s fair I suppose. Just remember that for future discussions…you can’t condemn America for doing the same thing!
u seem to be getting reasonable use of force to protect national intrests (taking back land that was illegally occupied by another), and unreaonsable demands made with the threat of force if the other nation doesnt do as u say (disarm urself so we can invade u more easily).
Are you speaking about Taiwan here? It seems to me that you are…
CCP to Taiwan: “You are illegally occupying CCP land…if you do not return it to us we will use force to take it back….disarm yourselves so we can invade you more easily.”
:rolleyes:
oh, PS, just cos its on a website dont make it a fact. i assumed u knew that, but now im not too sure.
Those are respectable web sites…just as good a source for information as your beloved BBC.com or CCP newletter.
How about you find something to substantiate your claims that the CCP is a ‘kind and benevolent’ political entity and that the PLA is for defending the people and not an instrument for the CCP to use to put down demonstrations or revolution.
Originally posted by Geforce
Especially now that the truth is being told to the public. Lies, all lies. There are no bloody WMD’s in Iraq.WMD’s = Saddam Hussein and his cronies.
And indeed your president doesn’t take crap from nobody, that’s about all you can say about him. He’ll probably never win a Pullitzer-price (as if he could pronounce the word :D)
At least he would never get down on all-fours to win one unlike your PM. 😉