Re: Re: Re: lkij

Originally posted by PILOTGHT

Steve, get us links of actual cold typhoon tests in norway,it’s all matter here, not a relic pic of traveling fat bugged mock up in norway!

Perhpas my dear pilot serré can’t read properly what I wrote, so I’ve going to help him

“Potential customer” = client potentiel

that’s what I wrote, exactly.

Now, do you know google pilot ?

norway + eurofighter.
Ouch, 1 890 answers.

Let’s see
Norway resumes talks with Eurofighter group – Jane’s Military … –

Norway participates in Eurofighter

Or even “norvege” and “eurofigher”,
171 answers.

Good night pilotight.

Re: Re: Re: Re: lol

Originally posted by mike currill
The Foreign Legion.

That’s what I thought.
Then
1) Read more books about the légion
2) what’s your point ?

And I’m sure this has nothing to do with a potential deal in a near future 😀

Originally posted by Tazzers
No mate if there is anything they are keeping it pretty quiet. Mind you the ECR90 is no flunk its tried and tested, based on the Blue Vixen I think which is a good set.

For A2A missions, the best features is certainly the range of detection.
When Thales did the RBE2, without an active array, they knew that the range would be lower but all others strong points of an electronic array would be a plus for the rafale (better reliability, able to work in several modes in the sema etime …) .
anyway, with mature software, I buy a RBE2 anyday of the week instead of a ECR90.

Originally posted by Tazzers
I know there is talk of an AESA for the Typhoon but I don’t know when it will come on line.

Yes, it’s the AMSAR program which should be finish in 2005.
The goal is to get cheap active modules for an array.
Since the RBE2 is already an electronic radar, the rafale team was sure that the active RBE2 would be raedy much earlier than the new EF2000 radar since only the array would be different.

Originally posted by PILOTGHT
” 5 Rafale F2: they don’t exist yet!! ”

si si , zei exist, as the commissionetrreport in this raport at french senat in oct 2003!
http://www.senat.fr/commission/etr/etrg031117.html#toc2

i translate, ” and the reporter was enjoying of the delivering of the 5 first rafales F2 for the air force to Mont de Marsan “CEAM”

they ares in advance of 3 mounths!

Yes, the 5 rafales F2.
Sure you saw them Steve, two were on the left behind of the Enterprise, two others in front of the death star and the last hidden behind a Go’ahuld spaceship.

Yes, as you can see, we, french have got lots of powerful allies 😀

Originally posted by Phil Foster
PilotGHT can I borrow your brain please I’m going to build an idiot.:D ?

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BTW pilotight, IIRC, the navy will get rafale F3 only and not F2, so even in 2008, the difference shouldn’t important.

Originally posted by Steve Touchdown
Mr. André Dulait, president, evoked the future maintenance costs of the F2 standard of the Rafale, recalling that that of the F1 standard, already in service in the Navy, appeared appreciably higher than the initial estimates.

Does he point the problem ??
According to what I read, the only main ermaining problem with the F1 is a weakness with the “connectique” ie the aggregate of wires + connections with electronic systems.
Since these systems are made in a very small scale, it takes much times to debug and is very expensive.

Re: Re: LOL

Originally posted by PILOTGHT

anyway to remind you the real facts, and not your own fantasy, it’s hard to deliver a batch of 28 rafales from feb 2004 to 2006 and haven’t any production lines working,

and you really believe that it’s the same production line who built 10 rafales over 5 years who would be used for the 28 following rafale from 2004 to 2006 ?

Steve is right, the production line has been shutdown to upgrade that line.
Could you remind me how many rafales have been built in 2003 ?
The last rafale is the C101.
What can you find in the FAQ of fr.rec.aviation ?
http://faq.bigip.mine.nu:8008/guide/rafale.php

Février 2002 : début d’assemblage final du C101, premier monoplace de série pour l’Armée de l’Air.

And here
http://www.isoshop.com/dae/dae/gauche/sponsors/sponsor_rafale/img/fox3_5.pdf
received by the AdA the 16th April 2003.
Thanks god, that wasn’t 2 weeks earlier.

So, it seems that , if less than 3 months of tests are need, you can easily said that Dassault, trough pure willpower and skilled manpower, manage to built … one rafale.