Originally posted by gaz west
ok ok slight technical fault but they used our engines in the sabre didnt they?

Only Australian-built models [Avon]. Usual powerplant was a GE J47 [not a Brit design]. Canadian aircraft had an Orenda.

13th YF-104A 55-2967 preserved at the USAF Academy Colorado Springs 1972

Triangle reads DOWNWARD EJECTION SEAT

Note hatch underneath

Originally posted by Bigglesworth
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Speaking of Mosquito Squadron, if you look closely (particularly the fire and wheels-up landing…) you will find there are quite a few of the same shots in BOTH films!. Four crashes for the price of two!

I am not sure whether one Production Company did both films or one used library footage and slightly different camera angles.

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633 Squadron was made by the GB arm of the Mirisch Company which was an independant producer distributing through United Artists. Mirisch was responsible for many film classics including Some Like it Hot, The Great Escape, and The Magnificent Seven.
Mosquito Squadron was produced by the less well-known Oakmont Productions that made a handful of forgettable films during 1969/70. It too was distribited by UA and used some scenes shot for or lifted from 633 Squadron. The 633 scenes are fairly obvious as the copying and transfer from ‘scope to standard ratio resulted in a degraded print quality. Mosquito Squadron was produced by Lewis J Rachmil who was Executive Producer on 633 Squadron. Another Oakmont title of 1970, The Last Escape, was directed by Walter Grauman who also directed 633 Squadron.

Originally posted by Paul Cushion
their TF-30 turbofans ….. the worlds first (and only?) afterburning turbofan.

R-R Spey in F-4K/M

Hardley a decent image but it may help. As I understand it, the only difference between the one in the picture and a wartime one was the fitting that plugged into the aircraft.

Our USAF exchange office bought himself a vintage Rolls-Royce to ship home. He had no problem getting a set of spare tyres as they were the same as fitted to the trolley-acc.

Originally posted by mike currill
How,why, who cares. We tried to build an aircraft to outdo the C-130 when everyone knows that the only replcement for a Herc is a Fat Albert

But I think we should care. In any event, we did not build the Belfast to outdo the C-130. Much closer to the Herc in its intended role was the Argosy. Interestingly, the first Argosy flew after the prototype Herc.

Surely the Belfast was not a great success – it was known in the Force as the Belslow. But it represented the final development of the Bristol Britannia and this important piece of our aviation history (and Canadian aviation history), cannot be ignored.

The first artist’s impression I saw of what became the Short Belfast was the Bristol Britannic freighter. I can’t be sure why the design was transferred except that Shorts built quite a few Britannias including the order for the RAF I believe.

Originally posted by Joe Petroni
Which was a shame ‘cos that was the whole point of having an APU in the first place!

The Rover was an AAPP = Auxiliary Airborne Power Pack and designed to produce 200 V 400 Hz 3-phase AC as standby electrical power on the ground and in the air below 20000 ft. The use of using the exhaust of the AAPP for starting the main engines was of secondary consideration.

Olympus 301s and Olympus 202s (which replaced the original 201s in the 1960s) had Rotax air starters that used either low pressure air from a trolley such as a Palouste or a STAD or by cross-feeding from another engine. Engines could be started without external air by the ‘rapid’ system in which compressed air was mixed with fuel, burnt and passed across the turbine of the starter. The advantage was that the four engines could be started a second apart or simultaneously by pressing the ‘Mass Rapid’ or ‘Sim Start’ button. This button also wound up the PFCs and autostabs etc. When serviceable, each engine had enough rapid air charge for three starts before the compressed air needed replenishing. Thus the AAPP starting was largely redundant though it would have been useful when operating away from base.

Originally posted by FASTPASS

-engines on stop,not running= no exhaustflames visible

also = no control