Thanks for the input chaps. The person who took the photo was a civilian professional photographer, which leads me to think that the photo was taken during a press open day at Leuchars at some point during 1940.
Although the caption (which was written many years after the photographer died) refers to the group as “RAF aircrew”, I’m wondering if this is a mistake and that some of the individuals are civilians, perhaps reporters about to be given a flight in a Hudson? A couple of them seem to be be wearing dark suits underneath their outer garments, and civilian passengers although needing to keep their ears warm, would have no other need for a flying helmet. 🙂
The photo comes from a substantial archive held in St Andrews University Library (the Cowie Collection). It consists of thousands of glass negatives of anything and everything that the late Mr Cowie thought interesting. He must have had a good relationship with RAF Leuchars because he was able to photograph many of the types that were based there from the 1930s to the 1960s – he even managed to wangle a flight in an Overstand to photograph another one over the Tay Estuary 🙂 . Unfortunately, few of his aviation shots have been digitised yet, but a small selection can be viewed at the St Andrews Library website – just type in “Leuchars” in the search engine.
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As for stripping out guns/armour etc as the battle did not have any armour plate fitted/or self sealing fuel tanks and was ony fitted with one foward firing 303 browning and one lewis gun for rear defense there would not be much weight to be gained by not fitting her out with wartime equipment.
Err, weren’t a few Canadian Battles modified to take a Bristol turret?
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If you’re in London, try here:
http://www.icons.org.uk/theicons/icons-atlas/london/the-british-library-newspaper-library/view
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As well as the F,4, Leuchars also has a Tornado F.3 on the gate. There were, a few months ago at least, a couple of other Phantoms at the base.
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Can’t you use Photobucket?
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Interesting similarities between MB 5, Mustang, and the best of all of them,
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SUPERMARINE SPITEFULLTELL ME DIFFERENT!!!!
Err, isn’t that a Seafang?
Ugly little begger innit. :dev2:
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Vacuum pump drive?
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Photo was taken earlier this year at East Fortune (Frightning in background).
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Just speculating but, couldn’t the prop be from Bristol Freighter G-AIFF?
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Here’s a post-war Hercules:

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I’ve read somewhere, very recently, about problems with the Halifax (IIRC) that were cured/helped by fitting four-bladed props. Owing to a shortage they were sometimes fitted to the inner engines only which was enough to reduce the problem. Would they have been Rotol or DH?
It’s mentioned in “The Merlin In Perspective”, published by the Rolls Royce Heritage Trust. I’ve forgotten what was said though…
Seem to recall reading that there were not enough four bladers to go around so some halibags only received one instead of the required two. 😮
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Moving away from yet another WW2 film…
What about a movie about some of the exploits of Sir Alan Cobham?
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The shift for aircraft mark nos was postwar – and is documented, PR.XIX upto then, PR.19 after. No one’s offering the engine equivalent?
Did the early wartime Meteors have anything other than Arabic designations? I don’t recall ever seeing Meteor F.3s being referred to as Mk.IIIs.
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Either that ,or the only person to have a full set of letter stamps was Ellor, and when he went to the US (to over see Packards production) ,he took them with him (although unused), leaving Rolls Royce in a pickle; they were then forced to buy a new set of stamps (from Halfords probably) and the rest is history!! (who says revisionism can’t be fun)
Good theory. 😀
He must have taken Bristol’s stamps as well, because later Hercules powerplants also had Arabic designations.
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FD.2 by a mile. 🙂
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