What’s This Worth?
My or someone else’s life!
Is how much!!
Mo
Once upon a time about ten years ago there was – and still is, a website that had a library of just about every unit/station badge that ever existed.
Almost all were removed under threat from MoD that any use of Squadron badges or the like would be prosecuted. I would have thought (and so said at the time in correspondence with said MoD) that the “intellectual property” belonged to those that served on those units and that they had well and truly earned their ownership.
Luckily, by that time, I had all those that I needed.
Mo
Richw
The covers are on, the door is locked and Avro Shackleton WR963 is now having a well deserved nap until the new year.
I’m surprised that nobody has picked up on the nightly farewell from the Magic Roundabout – “Time for bed said Zebedee …”
Have a great 2012
Mo
Richw
The covers are on, the door is locked and Avro Shackleton WR963 is now having a well deserved nap until the new year.
I’m surprised that nobody has picked up on the nightly farewell from the Magic Roundabout – “Time for bed said Zebedee …”
Have a great 2012
Mo
ianf
Ianf
You have a PM.
Mo
Count me out of this!!
Mo
You are right of course. But regardless of the name (my bad), they were well and truly done over.
Mo
My Father passed away in 1972 with a destroyed body. After surviving the Battle of The River Plate on HMS Essex and all that concurred, he had 5 bouts of “survivor’s leave” in 1940 – 1942. He was on Arctic Convoys for a year or so and ended with Normandy Bombardment on HMS Bellona.
It cut his life by too much and as a greay ladies man he never saw his beautiful grand daughter grow up – let alone his lovely great grand daughters.
How do you put a valuation on things like that?
Mo
And one from Noel Coward:
Lie In The Dark And Listen
Lie in the dark and listen.
It’s clear tonight, so they’re flying high –
Hundreds of them: thousands perhaps,
Riding the icy moonlit sky –
Men, machinery, bombs and maps,
Altimeters and guns and charts,
Coffee, sandwiches, fleece-lined boots,
Bones and muscles and minds and hearts,
English saplings with English roots
Deep in the earth they’ve left below.
Lie in the dark and let them go.
Lie in the dark and listen.
Lie in the dark and listen.
They’re going over in waves and waves,
High above villages, hills and streams,
Country churches and little graves,
And little citizens’ worried dreams.
Very soon they’ll have reached the bays
And cliffs and sands where they used to be
Taken for summer holidays.
Lie in the dark and let them go.
Theirs is a world we’ll never know.
Lie in the dark and listen.
Lie in the dark and listen.
City magnates and steel contractors,
Factory workers and politicians,
Soft, hysterical little actors,
Ballet dancers, reserved musicians,
Safe in your warm, civilian beds,
Count your profits and count your sheep,
Life is passing above your heads.
Just turn over and try to sleep.
Lie in the dark and let them go.
There’s one debt you’ll forever owe.
Lie in the dark and listen.
Noel Coward 1943
John B
I was born and raised in Portsmouth and it was quite hectic during the BoB with the Naval Base being a prime target. Some of us would play on old bullet riddled timber cabin cruisers, which had obviously been used in the Dunkirk evacuation. They were out on the mud flats between the shore and Whale Island wher the RN Gunnery School was established: I was in one on my own when the air raid siren went off. The tide was about to come in and the boat would fill with water and the mud would become too soft to walk across. I had always been told to stay where I was when the siren went. Luckily the action was short and sharp with the massive floating dock being the prime target. I had a grandstand view as it was only half a mile away. Once more it was a lovely sunny day and everything was crystal clear. I can’t ever remember it raining during the war.
Mo
I only wish more people realised that, Slicer.
Mo
Radiostargazer,
I was wrong with the date – it was the 20th of April not the 21st, but definitely April.
Kuwait is mentioned on the Video as that is the forst refuelling pont that Eagle used on the “Kangaroo Route”.
There is not much more I can say, I did post it for a neighbour who was the Senior Flight Attendant that day. I have passed her recollections on to the British Eagle Archivist. The cabin crew were highly commended for their actions by various authorities.
Mo
Thanks for the trip down memory lane. We spent two years in Vila when the Brits employed me as an Air Traffic Controller at Bauerfield.
I spent many days travelling to the North of the Island, particularly stopping off at the old Officers Mess at Havannah harbour, which sits at the end of the old Fighter strip. James Michener was an officer in the Navy and most of his stories were written in that concrete structure.
The history that I was fed re Quoin Hill, was that the CBs tried out their tests on its construction. The final layer was live coral, which they kept alive by sacrificing tankers in supplying sea water to the runway for two weeks before leaving it to die. By that time the live coral had grown into the main levels and in dying, cemented them together. You cannot press the proverbial car key into it. Only half of the Quoin Hill strip is out of the scrub and it is considered capable of handling the heaviest of aircraft. C130s of the RNZAF and RAAF would spend the odd hour or two doing circuits over there, including full stops.
Many items of warfare are advanced as winners of particular campaigns, but in the South Pacific – the Bulldozer was supreme. Americans established airfields in a quarter of the time taken by the Japanese.
Flyernzl, memsahib deserves as many shoes you can find for her!!
Mo
The only comment I will make; is that when I first joined 269 Squadron in 1956 our standard procedure, when on tracking back towards Ireland, that the Nav called 60 miles from Coast. If no contact was on radar we climbed to 6,000ft.
One our crew members at that time was on 833.
I agree with Pagen01, The large crew numbers emphasised the loss for the type.
Mo
Ive just seen the thread. There must be a delay on showing threads to the Antipodeans.
I lodged my submission to MV yesterday. Having recently had a magnificent double cataract operation, I was unable to submit anything new other than that, which has been said over the last 20 years.
I sent a selection from various letters to MV, British Heritage, Enviromental Ministry and three to John Majors at Number 10. Between 1992 and 1995 I was in constant contact with Peter Vallance.
We had an encouraging result in 1995, when MV virtually agreed with everything. Needless to say, that has changed. Peter Vallance has invested a large percentage of his own reserves, both finacial and mental/health in this last episode.
I can only wish him and his venture all the best that can be wished.
One of my oft used quotes in those days was that; “If you never have pride in your country’s past: you can never have faith in its future.”
Good Luck Peters all.
Mo