Very nice. It’s remind me pictures of the 4000 in le Bourget museum… they have save it between 1999 and 2002. But there was 25cm of water in the cockpit…
anyone replies ?
fazer01
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Originally Posted by Erez
I also believe that the F-35 should be able to deal with if they ever will.
I think that Eurofighter is far superior in air to air combat than the F-35
Fazer 01 I totally agree with you. I think the JSF is a compromise (between three services requirements). Of course, this airplane will have up-to-date electronics and missiles, and a very, very powerful engine (nearly 50 000 ibs ?? of thrust).
This is good, but the aircraft is still a compromise between VTOL (for the USMC) naval version (USN) and Stealth (for the USAF.)
I know this is not the same airplane : there’s three differents versions (A, B, C).
But the different abilities needed by the three services deeply influence the plane, and not in good way.
I think Stealth+VTOL+multirole (air to air+air to ground) is too much for the same airplane, even with differents versions. It’s because these three requirements are conflicting.As a consequence, you need to make compromises.
The striking example with the F35 is ground attack : you need a heavy bomb load (for example, cruises missiles like the Scalp or SLAM)or LGB).
In a F-35, to preserve stealth, missiles must be on the bomb bays. The trouble : as the plane is not very big, bomb bays are little, and you have a reduced bomb load.
On non-stealth planes, you can put the missiles under the wings; if you do that with a JSF, you kill stealth.
Worst, for ground attack you need a two seater (to avoid too much workload for the pilot). Because of conflicting requirements, there will be no two-seat F-35…
And for interception… I red many times that in the future USAF inventory, the interceptor will be the F22; the JSF is more an attack plane.
that’s why I think that a (compromise) F35 will be no match against a pure interceptor like the Typhoon
I had launch a thread about that ridiculous story, here
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=53780
Just imagine an enormous storm sunk the ship near south africa… :p :p :p
****!! the post was from fabe. So fabe you’re right :p
Hey Tony!! You’re perfectly right. This kind of policy cost France 8 soldiers, killed in november 2004 by a… Su-25 bombing raid. How Ivory coast bought its Frogfoots and Mi-24 ? exactly the way you describe so well… 🙁
AT-37, old Alphat jets or Hawks as interceptors ( 🙂 )
An-32 for “heavy” transport
An-2 and Mi-8 for light transport (from rough airstrips)
Su-25, Mi-24 and armed PC-7 for light attack
I agree, and ad that it’s hard to understand if chavez is a good man or a nationalist dictator.
From one side, he respect his opposition (despite a putsch, a national strike and a referendum against him!!! Ask fidel Castro what he would have done to his opposition with that…)
It also make social programs. On the other side, there’s an arm race between Venezuela and colombia, he is nationalist, populist and totally anti-american. So, It’s hard to understand what this man really want…
So stop Chavez and stick to the topic.
Cinciboy, you’re right.
Search “USAF Falcon project” on the web. It’s clearly USAF future space bomber…
Shorsch I like the image you have when you post (the phantom breaking the sound barrier in a huge cloud). Could you post it on this thread? I really want to download it… if possible of course.
Thank you Flanker man. Your name is good… I understand better why there’s so much designation or sub-versions of the Flanker…
Now, can you explain me why the russians named their prototypes “airplane 105” or “airplane 35” or something like that ? I never understood that.
Yes!! There was also many projects to launch flyings boats from submarines. The submarine go to the surface, you open the hangar, put the wings on the flying boats, and put it on the water with a crane.
France do this with a 3500 tons submarine, the surcouf (sunk in february 1942 by accident). There was a flying boat (A Besson I thought…)
The Japanese Seiran… (on the NASM now).
Sealordlawrence you’re right. I realised years ago that my poor brain would never be able to understand russian logic; according to the names they give to the prototypes.
If we take Su-27 derivatives it’s AWFUL!!! Something like Su-27KBULSMT… mayday!!
Su-27 (basic version. Ok.)
Su-30 (two seat / multirole /long range / upgraded ?)
Su-32 (side-by-side strike fighter??)
Su-33 (naval, ok)
Su-34 (the same as Su-32 ???)
Su-35 (unpagraded??)
Su-37 (vectored thrust???)
My goodness… 🙁
Do you know Markus Lindroos website ? look here… it’s very, very good!!
There’s ALL the concepts studied for the Space shuttle, between 1969 and 1972. When you read that, you understand better how and why the space shuttle become crap…