There’s was a very good article about the ACF in “le fana de l’aviation” of July 2004. The prototype of the ACF was 80% finished in december 1975 and had to fly in july, 1976. But it was scrapped ๐ ๐ .
It had two M53-2 engines (8500 kg of thrust each) the same were adpoted on the Mirage 2000 which replaced the ACF. The Mirage 2000 was requested on 18th december 1975, the same day the ACF program was scrapped.
If you are interested by this airplane, I made a scanner of the pictures of the magazine. I also have the caracteristics…
If someone explain me how to put pictures here !!!! ๐ก ๐ก
New tomcats
If one day we can steal a tomcat to the Iranians it will be very, very interesting to see what they had change. ๐ฎ
A Tomcat with russian or Iranian-made missiles, russian engines (??). The big question is : can the Iranians produce 100% new Tomcats
(or derivatives…) ? well if they can make 90% of the spares…
I will google a bit to see what is the missile “Sedjil”…
So…
If there’s any australian here who have details about this project please tell me more!! I desesperately googled the net but i found very little about the CA-23. ๐
CAC CA-23
Australia also had it’s supersonic fighter project in the 50’s.
remember CAC (Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation) of World War Two?
They produced a trainer (the Wirraway) two piston-engined fighter (the boomerang and the CA-15, a Mustang derivative) and a bomber (the Woomera).
In 1949 the australian governement ask us to produce a Mach 1.5 fighter
the CA-23 with rolls Royce Avon engine. The fighter looks like a twing engined crusader but with a delta wing.
alas it was scrapped in favor of australian F-86 Sabre. No prototype was ever built…
Later at the end of the 60’s they also made a mock up of the CA-30, a supersonic trainer (it looked like a Bae Hawk with delta wings).
Alas the MB-326 was chosen… and the australian industry never made a supersonic plane.
Yes. Great Britain have 7 AWACS and France, 4. (thanks for the “if any”…)
More surprisingly, Saudi Arabia also have 7 AWACS. none is downgraded…
I think NATO, French, and British AWACS are currently upgraded to the same standard…
90% of a Tomcat…
Wow. So they can make 90% of a tomcat ? what are the 10% missing? Imagine the Iranians produce a local TF-30… ๐ฎ
Mirage G8 models
Yes the Mig-23 looks like a Mirage G and they flew the same year, in 1967!
I’m trying to make a Mirage G8 model , using a Mig 23 as a basis. I use two exhausts from a Mirage IV (the Heller model).
Some years ago I created an ACF using a Heller Mirage F1CR as a basis.
Heller is interesting because they send model spares for free! I also Made a Mirage 4000 model and baught Heller Rafale A and Mirage IV A. My aim is to have all Twin-engined dassault fighter-bomber…
super hornet in trouble
I imagine the trouble of the US Navy if a F18 E/F was shot down by an Iranian Tomcat… ๐ฎ
Dada you’re right c’est vrai que c’est pas facile d’รฉcrire en anglais… ๐ก
thank you
Two others questions
– can the Iranians make “reverse engeneering” with the AIM-54 ?
– were can I found news or pictures about Iranians tomcats?
Between 1981 and 1988 french sold 113 Mirage F1EQ to Iraq. But they were no match to the tomcat : Mirages killed 3 tomcats but loss 45 of them! That’s why Irak was much interested in the Mirage 4000 (the twin engined Mirage 2000).
According to “le fana de l’aviation” there was a demo in Istres (french flight test center) in december 1979. Some Iraqis pilots were present. Dassault test pilot Jean Marie Saget was at the controls. The aim of the flight was to reach Mach 1.8 at 53 000 ft. But the aircraft was so powerful (the HUD was out of order on this day) that it went to Mach2 at 60 000 ft!
Iraq was ready to buy the 4000 but the beginning of the war stop the plan (as french air force choose the 2000, the buyer of the 4000 had to pay the production line himself!)
Imagine a BVR fight between a 4000 and a Tomcat…