From AFP
Pakistan Buys Mirages
Libya has sold its fleet of 49 Mirage-5 fighter aircraft to the Pakistani Air Force to be used for spare parts, according to sources in Libya.
The Libyan Mirage-5/D/DD/DE had been grounded for more than 10 years as a result of U.N. Security Council sanctions imposed after the downing of an American jetliner in the late 1980s.
“It would have cost Libya a lot to service and refit the Mirages to make them operational,” said one source. “That’s why it made better sense to sell the jets and look for new ones in the market.”
Under the Pakistani-Libyan deal, which sources said was reached in September, all Mirages will be transported to Pakistan before year’s end.
The Pakistani military declined comment.
Dassault, the French manufacturer of the Mirage-3 and -5, stopped producing parts for these models more than a decade ago.
This news was brought out earlier by pakdef. (before this article). i wonder what they will do. E-2’s ,the swedisch option or a combo.
Buzz (the non-internet kind 😉 ) is that the order will most likely be split. E-2Cs for PN and Erieye for PAF.
I find the above report suprising myself, ISRO has always lent a hand to the defense forces when requests made. From leasing transponders to the TES satellite when the army critically needed photgraphic views over kargil and pakistan. Cartosat 2 being launched next year will only enhance their requirement, previously the navy used to use the Indian Remote Sensing satellites (IRS) series for imagery.
It would be a poor show if the navy had to find a foregn vendor to lease transponders or satellites when dedicated Indian channels are available, but the report needs to be confirmed first however.
ISRO no doubt has the capability and indeed might be able to put a pilot system in place temporarily by using a couple of existing transponders…i get the feeling the navy wants its own satellite relatively quickly and ISRO has got a pretty packed schedule. Even then no excuse to turn down an offer from the armed forces which they critically need.
More news will come out further to confirm what exactly the navy is asking for…but i doubt ISRO has shrugged them off with a final NO.
Maybe IN wanted to piggyback onto an existing ISRO commsat design but ISRO couldn’t spare the transponder(s). Anyway, there should be a proposal to build a joint mil commsat soon that will be utilized by all the forces. IN’s long term plans will most likely placed on that.
The FC-1 is the evolved Super-7, period.
A fair enough assertion. But does require more digging: What are the antecedents of the Super-7?
All the design dissimilarities between IAR-95 and FC-1 seem to be more evolutionary changes and updates than a totally different, independently concieved, project.
Look at the image, it speaks a lot.
Yes, it does speak a lot…
From BR
Here is a good set of pics showing the “before and after” Gorshkov upgrade:

Notice the removal of the fwd guns and the extensive island and flight deck mods.
In the second pic, notice that the flight deck actually extends past the island on the stbd side. According to reports, that new portion of the flight deck will allow aircraft to be moved fwd and aft without affecting flight ops.
According to him, the project involves launching of Russian satellites from Indian launch pads onboard Indian rockets and vice-versa, setting up of ground control systems in both countries and its global marketing.
Good news for PSLV and sat manufacturing.
The Russians are trying to push the Mig-29 platform as an offset to not selling RD-33s to the JF-17 program. Most likely, what will wind up happening is that India will
a) buy more Mig-29s for the IAF along with giving the Mig-29 upg to the Russians or
b) buy more Mig-29s for the IN.
If (a) occurs, then the 126 plane tender might be split between Mig-29 and M2K (deja vu?).
Also, for (a) to occur, the IAF will have to decide what’s more important, giving up the plane that they really want (M2K) or possibly interfering with the JF-17 program. I emphasise “possibly” because the Russians could be bluffing as GD is referring to.
my sources are very deep
That is for sure 😀
Not just deep but VERY DEEP! 😀 LMAO…
Did the IAF not say it will take them 2 years to decide!??
Well it takes a long time to fly and test out the capabilities of four different fighters from four different countries with varying weapons suites. And then, there is the bureacracy… the mother of all labyrinths.
Say what you will but at AeroIndia 05 the scene will look like it’s from a combat aircraft enthusiast’s dream:
The Gripen on the tarmac next to the F-16 Blk52 next to the Mig-29M2 next to the M2K-V2.
I feel sorry for IAF who will have to pick the winner from this lot. 😉
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India, Russia Defense Ministers Meet Ahead of Putin Visit
By UTTARA CHOUDHRY, AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE, NEW DELHI
Russian Defence Minister Sergei Ivanov held talks Dec. 1 with his Indian counterpart Pranab Mukherjee, putting the accent squarely on defense ahead of a visit by Russia’s president to New Delhi.
Russian President Vladimir Putin visits here Dec. 2 to shore up agreements on a range of bilateral issues including defense deals with its former Cold War ally India, officials said.
Despite ever-warming ties with the United States, Russia remains India’s main supplier of aircrafts, tanks and ships.
Putin’s three-day visit will mark the fifth Indo-Russian summit since 2000 and the first since the swearing-in of the Congress party government of Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh in May.
Ivanov held back-to-back meetings Dec. 1 with India’s military top brass. He was received by Mukherjee and inspected a ceremonial guard of honor before India’s three service chiefs called on him.
“The meetings will tie up ways to expand military cooperation. Both sides see the immense potential for engaging in defense joint production and want to take it a logical step forward,” said a defense official.
Ivanov also met M. Natrajan, secretary of India’s military research and development wing. “These day-long meetings will be followed by delegation-level talks,” said the Indian official.
India and Russia have jointly developed the 280-kilometre (175-mile) range BrahMos supersonic cruise missile. It will arm Indian warships and has been tested six times since its development by Indian and Russian experts in 2001.
BrahMos was on display at the Jan. 26 Republic Day parade when India shows off its military hardware, and a number of countries are said to be interested in buying the cruise missile, which carries a conventional warhead.
India and Russia should sign an Intellectual Property Rights pact on systems produced jointly to pave the way for expanding military co-operation, the Press Trust of India news agency quoted Ivanov as saying.
“An early conclusion of such an agreement would lay the foundation for development of many more hi-tech weapons systems jointly by the two countries,” said Ivanov.
He said Russia wanted military ties with India “to transcend a buyer-seller relationship” to lead to jointly developing futuristic weapons.
A senior defence ministry official added New Delhi hoped an “unfinished agenda” would be resolved in Wednesday’s meetings. He was referring to Russia’s refusal to share frontline military technology with India until New Delhi endorses a pact on the protection of intellectual property rights.
Another issue is replacement parts. Seventy percent of India’s military hardware is of Soviet origin and since the Soviet Union’s 1991 breakup, the army, navy and the air force have complained of delays in sourcing spares from debt-hit Russian armament plants.
“There are a lot of systems in our inventory which are Russian and we hope the Russian industry will give its full support to what we have from them,” Indian Navy Chief Admiral Arun Prakash said earlier this week.
Prakash, however, dismissed reports debt-ridden MiG Corp. could stumble in supplying 16 MiG29K jet fighters worth $700 million for a refurbished Soviet-era aircraft carrier, the Admiral Gorshkov, that India agreed to buy from Russia in January 2003.
India’s military is also seeking a breakthrough in stalled talks with Moscow to reach a tripartite pact with Israel for revamping India’s fleet of Tu-142 maritime surveillance aircraft that it bought from the Soviet Union in 1988.
Israel is India’s second-largest arms supplier.
Another key focus of Putin’s visit will be in information technology.
Putin is due to spend a day in the southern high-tech capital of Bangalore visiting big software firms.