Don’t talk about auqaat I have shown many of you’r ilk thier auqaat at other forums and can do so here too 😡 .Get out of you’r shell in which you’r right and everybody else is wrong.That’s why I did’nt join this place for a long time too many psuedo self made experts on all sides wether ouirs or your’s(and you the biggest of em all).
LMAO…
Internet warrior alert 🙂
INTERNATIONAL DEFENSE REVIEW – NOVEMBER 01, 2004
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Brahmos extension allows Amur-class to accommodate vertically launched missiles
A model of an Amur-class patrol submarine with its hull extended to accommodate vertically launched Brahmos missiles was displayed by Brahmos Aerospace Ltd at this year’s African Aerospace and Defence show, staged near Pretoria in September. According to a company representative, the 7m extension, jointly devised with the Rubin submarine design bureau, provides space for eight missiles while enhancing the Amur’s hydrodynamic performance. A joint development by India’s Defence Research and Development Organisation and Russia’s Mashinostroyenia, the ramjet-powered Brahmos missile is supersonic and has a range of 290km. The surface-ship launched version is due to enter service with the Indian Navy in 2005.
May not be a big deal but both the 21s and the 23s were for trainers.
Oh, btw, thanks Steve. You are indeed a goldmine.
Any IN people kicking any Harrier tires recently or checking out the Vincy? 😀
So, the 412EPs are only a 2 year lease?
What is the IN not interested in?
You’ve got the Orions, the Mays, the Bears, now the Atlantiques, etc.
Either this could be a new competition starting up for the next MPAs for the IN or separate marketing depts of these suppliers are taking some liberties.
Ideally, a MMA type solution based on a passenger liner (737 or A310) would be best.
Might be worthwhile to do a partial upgrade on the Bears and make them LACM trucks carrying 4-6 Brahmos.
A probable layout of the Indian ADS by M Mazumdar as published in Jane’s FS.
Notice the VLS boxes on either side.
ex-USN ships are a tough buy. They are flogged very hard in service compared to other navies.
True, but they are also very well maintained as well. Which can’t be said for other sellers of used ships. 😉
There were some reports that were widely disregarded which mentioned that the IN was in fact talking about leasing/buying some Sprucans.
JANE’S DEFENCE WEEKLY – OCTOBER 20, 2004
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Exercise ‘Malabar’ demonstrates growing Indian, US co-operation
RAHUL BEDI JDW Correspondent
New DelhiThe Indian and US navies concluded a combined exercise earlier this month in the Arabian Sea as part of growing security and military links between New Delhi and Washington.
The Los Angeles-class attack submarine USS Alexandria, the Ticonderoga-class Aegis-guided missile cruiser USS Cowpens and the Oliver Hazard Perry-class guided missile frigate USS Gary were the US Navy (USN) participants in the five-day Exercise ‘Malabar’.
A USN P-3C Orion maritime patrol aircraft also participated. India is negotiating with the US government to acquire eight to 10 surplus P-3s with the option of obtaining a similar number later under the US Foreign Military Sales programme.
Indian Navy (IN) ships participating included the Delhi-class destroyer INS Mysore, the Bhramaputra-class frigate INS Bhramaputra, the Shishumar-class (Type 1500) submarine INS Shankul and the Aditya-class replenishment ship INS Aditya. They were supported by a Tu-142M long-range surveillance aircraft and Sea Harrier fighters.
“The co-operation between the two navies has moved apace with the relationship between the two countries in recent years. The process has been characterised by service-to-service interaction, high-level visits, joint exercises of increasing scope and complexity, and significant co-operation in the field of military training,” an IN official statement stated.
However, it would seem that some of the Mirages are capable of firing Micas.
And Mig-29s are called Flankers. But, hey if you want to go on record stating that the IAF has Mica firing Mirages, go right ahead.
So not all of the strikers are sitting ducks. Even if you discount the strikers, there would still be a slight numerical superioirty enjoyed by the IAF, about 1.75:1
Shouldn’t the USAF have had at least the same amount of success when they were part of the strike package, ie when they were part of RedFor?
However, for this particular exercise in question, it seems that the US flew with a handicap, especially a numerical one.
OK, back to square one then…
Sure, if you count the 4-6 strikers…
Of course. But did the IAF always have numerical superiority?
If you count the strikers, yes. But the problem is that the strikers were always the RedFor, while the IAF’s birds would sometimes be the BlueFor while other times the USAF birds the BluFor. There was no IAF or USAF, it was RedFor and BlueFor.
That’s why it’s called DACT- Dissimilar.
Did you know that the USAF wasn’t always the OpFor? Sometimes the USAF would be escorts. The roles weren’t static, except for the strikers.
Both sides were given the tactical advantage… hence dissimilar, cooperative exercise.