Hi again Willip.
I have to agree with James about the timeline for A17-503’s paint scheme. Going into storage in 1944 before being sold off tends to suggest that it never wore the post-war silver scheme. Again James is correct; there were exceptions.
I have asked a friend who is a very capable researcher/illustrator to chase up what they can relating to the paint scheme of A17-503. I’ll let you know their findings when I hear back.
Also, there is a very good series on RAAF colour schemes 1920s to 1950s, put together by Ian K Baker.
Anyway, I’ll keep you posted.
Cheers
Owen
Below is a snap of some RAAF Tigers post war at Uranquinty NSW Australia. My Dad was one of the instructors on this sortie in 1955, 3 years after he had returned from Korea.
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Hi Willip,
I’ll do a little more searching around about paint schemes and see what I can dig up. I have a fair idea, but I don’t want to ‘jump the gun’.
A17-503 served with the EFTS at Narromine, NSW. It may well be worth contacting the Curator at the Museum there to verify its WWII markings. [email]curator@narromineaviationmuseum.org.au[/email]
Also, I thought for information you might like some background on A17-503 from Julian Forsyth’s excellent book. (If you’d like the same for A17-48 I can forward that information as well).
Construction Number 926
Built to RAAF order as A17-503. 2 AD Richmond 18.5.42. 1 AOS Cootamundra storage 25.5.42. EFTS Narromine 22.6.42. DHA Mascot 19.6.44 for overhaul (sequence number T.256). 2AP Bankstown 30.6.44.
5 AD Storage Cootamundra 6.7.44. CMU Cootamundra 12.3.46. Offered for sale by CDC 1.2.47. Sold for £90 to Association of Australian Aero Clubs, Broadmeadow, N.S.W. 14.2.47 Issued to purchaser 7.5.47.
Registered VH-BMY to Newcastle Aero Club, Broadmeadow, N.S.W., 4.3.49 (C of R Number 1628)
Struck power lines and crashed near Canowindra, N.S.W., 2.9.50, on a flight from Forbes to Cowra (pilot Francis Rooney killed). Withdrawn from service 16.5.51. Registration cancelled 6.8.51 in general cancellation of registrations of unairworthy aircraft. Registered VH-RNM to Royal Newcastle Aero Club, Broadmeadow, N.S.W., 56. Registered VH-BTU to Basil Taylor & Co Pty Ltd, Perth W.A. 19.11.59.
(Cof R number 2932). Registration cancelled 26.6.61. Registered to Blaxwell & Grummels, South Guildford WA, 28.6.61; and F. W. Lawrence, Benjaberring, WA, 25.9.63. Registration cancelled 8.7.66 Exported to the United States. Became N3862.
Source: The DH82A Tiger Moth in Australia by Julian Forsyth 1995.
Cheers,
Owen
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Hi All,
I enjoyed “Biplane” by Richard Bach. It is the author’s tale of ferrying his recently purchased Parks P-2A ‘coast to coast’ across the United States. Bach was an F-86 driver and also authored “Jonathon Livingston Seagull”. It is only quite a short book but exudes the pure joy of flying on every page.
Cheers
OZ
P.S. …and there’s always my book ‘Down to Earth’;)
Hi again All,
Thanks for the posts.
Based on the replies, I think there is definite merit in an “Aussie Contingent” get together in the New Year. Victoria, or possibly Temora, might fit the bill. Anyway, let’s stay in touch by PM and see what we can work out.
In my post I ommitted to state my location. I’m in Bowral NSW, a bit over an hour south-west of Sydney.
Cheers
OZ
Hi again All,
Thanks for all of these tremendous posts and photos. When I started the thread I wondered how many replies would be posted.
The diversity and significance of these flights is amazing and serves to remind us how fortunate we all are to have such opportunities.
It’s great reading!
Cheers
OZ
It’s now only 3 hours until the eleventh hour of the eleventh day here in Australia.
I’ll spend the time with my Mum, a WWII WAAAF radar operator, as my father, a veteran of World War Two and Korea, is now gone. Mum also lost her fiance in World War Two in a Beaufort in New Guinea 6 weeks before her wedding.
As such, today and ANZAC Day have always been significant in our home. Particularly for Mum.
Lest we Forget.
OZ
Thanks for all the replies thus far. Maybe we’ve started something!
It’s great to see so many mates from the Antipodes. (A big word designed to round up Aussies and Kiwis in the same stockade:) ) Melbourne seems to be the melting pot and it’s interesting to see a shot from Rob Fox’s Bird Dog. I’ll PM you about that JDK.
I’m based in New South Wales, but will be a temporary Victorian for the first few months of next year whilst on a conversion course. There may be an opportunity then to meet up.
So keep coming out of the wood-work lads. It’s great to see.
Cheers
OZ
Hi All,
Though I don’t remember any specific episode where the ‘Bush Tucker Man’ came across a wreck, there are a number of contenders in the outback Kimberley region. I used to fly around there in my early days as a pilot back in the late 80’s and there were still wrecks to crawl over to pass the time while waiting for passengers to return from their business.
(i) B-24 Liberator A72-160 crashed at on take off at Truscott in 1945 killing 11 on board. Much of this wreck is still in place today.
(ii) As for a DC3, there is some rusting wreckage of a Dutch Dakota north of Broome at Beagle Bay that was shot down by the Japanese in 1942. It is the centrepiece in the ‘Dutch Diamond Mystery’, which is now a book.
(iii) At Kalumburu there were a number of bomber wrecks in the scrub that are still visited by tour groups from time to time. I believe that some of these have been recovered in recent years.
All in all, there were quite a few wrecks to see in the remote areas of Australia and I know some are still there today. Many are rightly marked as tributes to the many crews who served and others serve as memorials to those who perished.
Cheers
OZ
Hi,
I believe Hawker Hurricane Mk I G-ROBT (P2902) is also at Hawker Restorations.
Cheers
Dear Alex,
Many thanks for the clarification.
Regards,
Owen
Hi,
I’m actually the author of the book, ‘Down to Earth’, which is referred to on the Grub Street website and that you’ve mentioned in your post.
As you’ve outlined, the Hurricane Mk.I in question is P2902, or R-DX. Its pilot, Kenneth McGlashan was shot down in this aircraft over Dunkirk in 1940. He subsequently went on to fly operationally as a fighter pilot right through to, and including, D-Day. He remained in the RAF until the late 50s, retiring as a Squadron Leader. Apart from his active service, he was seconded to BOAC, served in Cyprus and witnessed the dawn of the jet age. He was also awarded the Air Force Cross.
He migrated to Australia and it was my absolute privilege to come to know ‘Mac’. He was a truly remarkable chap and his loss left us all a little poorer. His Hurricane, however, is still very much with us. The aircraft is definitely well on its way to being restored to flying status, though as anyone who has experience with such an extensive restoration knows, it is always difficult to put a date on completion.
Kenneth’s wife and family members have made the long journey from Australia to be at Duxford this weekend for the launch of his story. Let’s hope the weather is kind to them.
All the best,
Owen
…also Duxford bound from the land down under.
Dear Pete,
I have just finished a book on a very unassuming RAF veteran who migrated down under here to Australia some years back. (In fact it’s being ‘launched’ at Duxford Legends next week.) In researching this book, and with all veterans, I have always set my primary goal as recording the story for their family. If no-one else reads it and the story is preserved for them; mission accomplished. However, some tales definitely stand out and beckon to be more widely published. The decision to do so is solely theirs. At 85, if he is happy with the status quo, then let it be.
If he is interested in publication, I would suggest that his 100 pages would equate to a few more when examined more closely by a biographer/writer. Such brevity and understatement is commonplace amongst this marvellous, dignified and modest generation.
As Garry relates, publication is very competitive, so the story and the style in which it is written must be just right. As a suggestion, you may wish to put a proposal together to submit to Publishers, based on the 100 page manuscript. (Again this will have to conform to Publisher guidelines) The proposal permits an opportunity for publishers to show interest without the project prematurely become all-consuming. Pondskater has also raised some good options in private publishing and the like.
Overall, if the veteran is happy with the way things are, I would suggest leaving it be. There is quite a lot involved in turning a story into a published book and all parties must have their heart in it. Perhaps a copy can be donated to the IWM for their records. At the very least, it is great that he has recorded the story in its present form.
Best of luck,
Owen
Let’s keep that positive thinking going. I’m travelling about 11,000 miles from Sydney.:)
OZ