can someone educate me on h to attach pic from pc….???…..i’ve not yet been successful in that …… maybe am mising some action in the menu???…… hope u guys can hepl me on tahat..ty ….

and what that MKI on IL-78???…… so it this MKI becoming a standard in IAF???

Blackcat, one of the -SMT upgrade phases was also supposed to introduce the K-37M long-range AAM derivative of the MiG-31Ms R-37. Not sure if the original 3-phase upgrade program is still the way the RusAF is going though, anybody have an idea on that one?

yup..am not sure abt which one but these SMT upgrades are like tailored …mean the customer selects what all they want and if they choose the K-37 they will have their a/c tailored for it…..

yeah the RuAf donhave enough bugs to go in for the SMT-II or the SMT-III, so they are goin in for the first one which they think is more cost effective like the humbback fuel tanks, bolt-on type refuelling probe etc…. though i hope they atleast change over to the new Radar …. N010 which has good capablity…

and sorry guys the link is not working ….i’ll post once moew…and SOC, can u attempt to post the pict from ur pc after copying it???…. am not able to do that kinda posting in here….

http://www.flymig.com/maks_pictures/html/MiG-29SMT.1.htm
http://www.flymig.com/maks_pictures/html/MiG-29SMT.2.htm
http://www.flymig.com/maks_pictures/html/MiG-29SMT.3.htm

ty in advance ….hope u do it….

Question to the MiG-29 experts.
Which version of the 29 is all in all better, SMT or M2, and what is different between them?
The MiG-29M2 looks like a good airplane, kind of a Strike Eagleski (in a good way). Does it has a chance to go into service in Russia?
Is there any country showing interest in it? (would be a shame to see it as an enemy)

am no expert but wud like to put some info as most are ignorant abt the SMT package due to which many BS regarding the SMT …. there are three levels of upgrade, SMT-I, SMT-II and SMT-III , I don know much abt the SMT-III, but I’ll give some briefs abt these three and these upgrades are meant to make the older MiG-29’s comparable in performance to the 4 + gen fighters and mostly aimed at competing with the Blk 50/52+ F-16’s if amn not wrong ..

MiG-29 SMT-I going in for a mid-air refueling, notice the bolt-on type refueling probe

well guys pls do correct any wrong info that u may find in this one….

SMT-I
– it includes the whole new 5th generation avionics package based on 1553B mil std databus
– the radar is the N-019 but uprated ones with TWS of 10/2, which include MTI, terrain mapping etc
– new OMC, processors, updated softwares,
– Digital FBW (?)
– 7 (or 9?) fixed hard points, payload increased to 5,000Kg
– increased fuel with the additional fuel in hump back tanks and LERX, revised enlarged centerline tank carry 1,800 lt of fuel
– partially retracting refueling probe or bolt-on type
– A-A mission range of ~1600 Km, A-S mission range of ~1100 Km, overall range of 3,500 Km or ~6,700 Km with one mid-air refuelling
– AoA raised to 30 degree (yeah in the upgrade!) meant the AoA limits raised from 28 to 30 and with the limiters off u can guess what it can do …
– Service life extended upto 6000 hrs

SMT-II
– includes a complete new avionics package based on the 1553B mil std databus and digital FBW from the MiG-29M
– a new radar N-010 with TWS of 10/4, and the only absence is the phased array
– 4 fixed (?) points under each wing, totaling 9 hardpoints … am not sure if in the SMT-II the points are movable mean like what the Ka-50/52’s have
– payload increased to 5,500Kg with the strengthening of undercarriage
– Further increase in internal fuel by the removal of the auxiliary intake at the leading edges for fuel, and also (if need as per customer) increased dorsal spine for additional fuel
– Increased internal fuel of 5,600 Kg from a mere 3,600 Kg (same as SMT-I?)
– and also a fully retracting re-fuelling probe

SMT-III
I don have full info abt these but these will be having all the above and these three are meant for customers with different level of up gradation needed mostly what ur pocket permits to to do …

– Avionics based on 1553 std mil databus
– N-010 and probably the ESA version
– 5 hard points with the wingtips also utilized and also with movable hardpoints
– and the payload increase may be like the SMT-II of 5,500 Kg, I don know if can be further increased to the level of M2.

All these also features new glass cockpit, 2 piece canopy if not the bubble type of the F-16, increased wing span(?) , new engines or as per demand like the uprated RD-33 with 19,400lbs or the VK-10M developing 24,500lbs thrust as and when available etc. The upgrade option for the western customers are also provided with option of the MIL-STD-1760 data bus so as for them to use PGM’s etc and all that’s been tested on the SMT’s are utilized by the Sukhoi’s, M2, K and for developing new avionics and systems for the 5th Gen a/c too.

that posing pict is simply grrr8…….

cool pictures……… but am waiting to see the cockpit … can someone post the cockpit pictures of the BISON …….

well….. i forgot to add that Isreali’s are now the third largest Arms exporter…….. and what elevated them to this no 3 spot ws the Indian AWACS deal……

Harry … r u the same of ACIG ???…….

well….. i supose i saw in there a quote under a pic of MMR that its also been expoted .. is that really???…..

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do you have sources for this statement?

I do not agree, and i politely turn down your claims.
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sorry pal I may not get any source to back up my claim, its on my personal evaluation and analysis that I conclude this one and I strongly believe that …. . but I thing u got confused with my writing…. What I actually mean was the US interests …..k let me put it more clearly….

First off all, if at all a time came when India was actually to inducting an AWACS (not considering the first mooted date of 1986) it was in 2000 when IAF evaluated the Russian A-50’s which was found satisfactory and logic says that that was to form the initial early warning wings, with the indigenous project then taking off parallel to this … the Phalcons came to the Indian scene only after the Chinese affair ended and this transistion period is important coz I believe there have been a through diplomatic activity that went around Washington, Tel Aviv and maybe NewDelhi too ….. now u can’t expect the US to fund the Isreali’s infinitely and indefinitely and so was the reason Y the arms export was prioritized so as for the Isreali’s to make money and reduce some pressure off the American tax payer ….

The pahlcon deal costing billion was a big blow to this one as the isreali’s as this was the single larget deal which wud also push them up in the weapons market, but then US had its own reservations, … and the only way the Isreali’s cud have been compensated was to find a third buyer and so did the IAF got seduced to it … who just forgot the basic to first stand up on their feet ….. now only after this PHALCON was showcase by the US-Isreali combo did – which I strongly feel – was the indegenious AWACS really pushed back to the backburner which already was suspended after the crash ….

……. But then for a system which was 90 percent completed (if am not wrong) wont take that much time to revive , and the loss of scientist causing the near abandonment of the whole project is something that I wont digest coz I just don want it , coz its just absurd , coz how much time do actually one need to reactivate a closed chapter – now lets take a case of criminal investigation which is disrupted coz of an untimely death of the guy leading it (again in such cases untimely death is also a case of suspicion) , and another person is deputed , how much time will he require to finish off the job if his predessor has finished most of the job with just the presenting part left???? … well not more than say a couple of years at the max extreme .…. And so can this too be concluded .. I don thing it wud have taken more than say 3 yrs time at the extreme end (i.e 2001, a time when IAF badly needed the AWACS) to complete it and induct a workable AWACS .which in due time cud have been upgraded ….. but now we are left Blind in the sky but for the MKI which will don the job till the AWACS arrive ….

K now comes the US part, US has been the single major source which wud not like to see such a force multiplier with the IAF , else their ally’s military wud have been thrashed by the Indian counterpart to a non-existent level , and this also have been the single most restraining part on the part of IAF for restraining itself from a pre-emptive strike strike on Pakistan which US clearly knows and they have evaluated it real good … now lets see what US has gained by the PHALCON, …. India is not gonna go on pre-emptive until the AWACS arrive and am pretty sure abt that, ie US has extended its ally’s life term by a min of 5 – 7 yrs which is a guaranteed one, but then this can be further extended if the US finds that its ally is gonna get thrashed ..so the first delivery may even extend beyond 2007 ….. and Isrrali’s did their bitter part by releasing that Russia’s are not cooperating and the immatured Indian media who reproduce whats west has to say w/o any of their own analysis was also putting blame on the Russian’s … although it’s a fact that there was some probs regarding the integration of the same, but the real rfactor was finally out afer the standoff reccceded that US has given green light to the PHALCON sale … which in one sweep blew off the Isreali and the western lie abt Russia being the obstacle for the Indian AWACS for their own monetary gains and for not going in for their system ….