Actually, remember reading about this somewhere and if you look closely between the rotor blades on the left you can see the wire that pulls the helo on its side. Nothing to do with weather but utterly incompetent handling of aircraft.
The Italian government is barely able to scrape together funds for the first two FREMM, let alone asure a full run of 10 ships as planned. Yet they will invest more money into a new radar variant? We will see what happens.
The preferred propulsion system from the French point of view would have included the Rolls Royce MT30 marine gas turbine. However Italy pushed for license produced General Electric LM2500+. A CODAD variant may have been discussed in the initial stages, but not for quite a while now.
Pred: No the last Freo to retire will be at the end of 2007 or begining of 2008 give me the URL for this Gereman article and I will send them a message to correct it. Just refer to tyhe RAN website for the decommissioning dates for the Fleet (Freo’s and FFG’s).
Article was on MarineForum (up for a week at a time only at http://www.marineforum.info/AKTUELLES/aktuelles.htm)
Not seen any dates on the RAN website, which is good for information but seems to carry no news section.
Looks like an interesting article and I shall look forward to more reports in future!
Talking about the Fremantles… a German magazine this week said the last one was decommissioned in December (namely HMAS Dubbo). This true? Thought this was not due until sometime this year when more Armidales are around. Though may make sense to have crews training for new boats due this year I guess.
Quite similar vessels have also been active this week trying to get a 275 metre containership drifting about 60km of the French Atlantic coast under control.
I do not have an insight into Icelandic finances, but would think that this tug and aircraft are a substantial acquisition and so the other two will have to soldier on for some time (as will Odin until 2009). Maybe they can get a second (smaller) by 2010-12.
A side or waterline exhaust might be a better choice here, however may be more complicated and add costs. Not sure the kind of sea states the vessels are expected to encounter would add a further constraint?
The design shows some similarity with the Malaysian Meko 100 OPVs, albeit with different underwater lines and greater displacement (twice). The Meko looks larger though for some reason. The Protector OPVs are also much smaller displacement but is supposedly suitably modified for southern ocean operations. I would have thought the type of offshore industry derived Rolls Royce design vessels operated by Norway (and in future Iceland) would have been ideal?!
Ja, you mentioned the bow thrusters in relation to adverse weather and sea states (and crew comfort). I have never heard of the thruster being used in that relation, with the exception of station keeping. Any more insight on that?
Well getting back to the Dutch OPV, not sure that I like this design at all, there is a really limited view aft from the bridge due to the side mounted funnels.
Don’t like where the SAM launcher is, means you can’t have flight ops at the same time as firing SAM’s (Or is that the secondary gun (CIWS)?
The crane is in a really bad position on the starboard side there, what’s the go with that?
VDS on a ship this size would indicate that it would have an ASW role as well [..]
The bridge does have limited field of vision, agreed, between funnels and superstructure. I reckon the launcher on the hangar is in fact a remote weapon station of 20-30mm calibre. The RNLN has not yet selected one for fleetwide retrofit but neighbouring Germany is in the process of fitting the Rheinmetall MLG 27. Altogether it looks like there will be 2 cranes for deploying RIB type boats mounted on both sides of the hangar, and a 3rd RIB deployed via the stern ramp. Not sure I see a VDS, unless you meant the aft ramp?!
The USCG Hamilton class large patrol cutters was built for long endurance cruises far from friendly bases back in the 1960s. I believe that the LCS-2 will win the naval contract and the Coast Guard will get a stripped down version of the LCS-1 to replace the ageing Hamilton Class Cutters.
The USCG has a rather large programme called Deepwater which covers the replacement of the Hamilton and Hero class high endurance cutters with 8 National Security Cutters, also known as the Legend class, weighing in at 4,300 tons. Whether the LCS will be considered for the slightly smaller medium Offshore Patrol Cutter programme remains to be seen. The LCS may have insufficient service life (~25yrs) for USCG, which is already concerned about this issue for the NSC, and other characteristics such as seakeeping, endurance, range etc may also play against it, even if the speed is something the USCG would desire.
They probably showed it because they had it. 99.9999% of Joe Public wouldn’t have a clue, so from that perspective it works fine.
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Very likely the case. The model matches all publicly available images of FREMM prior to around mid-2006 and was used mainly by the Marine Nationale for public events. Maybe not wasting any of Joe Public’s money for a new model (one that matches the one on show at Armaris and DCN at the same events) is a good trend in defence spending? And there are already rumours (strongly denied by officials) that not even France will actually get the complete run of 17 ships, never mind the Italian shaky 10.
Wouldn’t expect to see POD drives on surface combatants, and especially high-speed vessels like the proposal above for some time to come. It is a good idea but not practical. So traditional shaftlines and (increasingly) waterjets for some time yet. Or a combination of both, if SAN MEKO A200s are anything to go by.
Think I read a story couple days after this which claims the submarine was in fact a cigarette boat sitting very low in the water with some kind of rigged up exhaust/snorkel. Semi submersible at best. Iranian Navy and/or Pasadran militia use some kind of semi-sub speedboat that can reach 40kts and dive to a couple feet (not at that speed maybe).
Edit: Shame to waste this as a drugs runabout, but may be the ultimate … same guys do faster things though
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMsUXUQx-XI
Ok let me clarrify a couple of points here:
13. The Visby Class Corvettes will have a hanger, unfortunately it will not be below decks but intergrated in a redesign of the aft section incorperating the Hanger aft of the bridge. I found this out via Papa Lima and another former member of this forum both in Sweden.
Eventually had time to chase this. There will be no hangar according to the MoD. Maybe it was rumours or wishful thinking that was picked up?
As for the US getting 50, I would be somewhat surprised, though 30 is probably realistic.
As per FY07 plans the Navy is to order 23 by FY2011, and a total of 51 costing $13.7b by FY2016 (+ the four already on order now). And as LCS is currently projected to have a service life of 25 years procurement of replacements is pencilled in for a rather distant FY2030 start.
Whether all this will actually happen in light of budget cuts, rising cost etc remains to be seen, but these are the current projections (Annual Long-Range Plan for Construction of Naval Vessels for FY 2007).
“Today” in that press release referring to 23 September of this year in fact, so outfitting should be well under way and sea trials to begin soon. Intrigued to see how the platform works out.
There have been rumours that both designs may ultimately be acquired, and the requirement is for 50+ vessels. Another competitor which dropped out a while back was a large (compared to existing Norwegian ones from which they were derived) Surface Effect Ship design.
So these guys have had about a month to follow that story and that’s the best they can come up with? And Korea has ordered 3 and wants another 6…