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February 17, 2016 at 12:12 pm in reply to: From a Spitfire or a tractor? #845679

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Thanks Stuart for your observation, which crossed with my last message. Thanks also to the others who have contributed.

February 17, 2016 at 12:08 pm in reply to: From a Spitfire or a tractor? #845682

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It appears to have been a round tube. I’ve just shown it to my friendly local motor engineer and he reckons it’s not heavy duty enough to be average agricultural but just could be from a crop sprayer (not the aircraft sort!) The Spitfire which crashed nearby was a BoB veteran, hence my special interest in this relic.

February 17, 2016 at 9:04 am in reply to: From a Spitfire or a tractor? #845737

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No, it’s not magnetic.

February 17, 2016 at 8:34 am in reply to: From a Spitfire or a tractor? #845741

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It is quite heavy for its size but but I don’t know what grade it is, Ian. It seems to me to be of aircraft quality. And Cees, there is absolutely no part number on it but there may have been one on the missing broken-off section.

February 16, 2016 at 8:07 pm in reply to: Handley Page O/400 G-EAAF #845833

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A very little more here:

http://publicapps.caa.co.uk/modalapplication.aspx?catid=1&pagetype=65&appid=1&mode=detailnosummary&fullregmark=EAAF

February 16, 2016 at 12:39 pm in reply to: From a Spitfire or a tractor? #845915

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I agree but it could also be from a plough!

February 16, 2016 at 11:59 am in reply to: From a Spitfire or a tractor? #845962

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Sorry, I’m not sure why the pic came out so large. Finger trouble no doubt!

January 31, 2016 at 4:30 pm in reply to: Wartime Rapide blackout windows question #856091

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Railway Air Services also had them. It was to prevent passengers seeing airfields and installations that they shouldn’t!

January 13, 2016 at 2:01 pm in reply to: Handley Page 0/400 J2259 #867713

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It’s a General Service hangar of which Baldonel had several. Looking at Google Earth, two still exist, I believe. These GS types were common to many aerodromes, Shotwick/Sealand included, so this doesn’t reallly prove anything. I would say that the unkempt grass is a bit unusual and the tree line fits with GE.

January 13, 2016 at 10:56 am in reply to: Handley Page 0/400 J2259 #868062

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Hi Paul. Give me your email address via pm and I’ll send you the scans from the book which I have just sent to Greg.

January 13, 2016 at 9:15 am in reply to: Handley Page 0/400 J2259 #868164

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Thanks Greg, I’ll email the scans. I was going to suggest that once we’d made contact via pm.

January 12, 2016 at 10:19 pm in reply to: Church organ incorporating WW I aircraft parts? #868295

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Pity it doesn’t say where it is. Reminds me of the bomb bell on a church on the Greek island of Symi.

January 12, 2016 at 10:00 pm in reply to: Handley Page 0/400 J2259 #868306

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I forgot to mention that Sealand was originally named Shotwick after another nearby village which was and still is just over the border in England. Pronounced Shottick, by the way. I don’t think it bcame Sealand until 1924.

January 12, 2016 at 9:56 pm in reply to: Handley Page 0/400 J2259 #868310

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Hi Greg

Volume 2 of Wings Across the Border – a History of Aviation in North Wales and the Northern Marshes, by Derrick Pratt and Mike Grant, has a few more details of this incident but any clandestine activity is not mentioned. I quote: “No 100 Squadron cadre, having abandoned its Handley Page o/400s, proceeded to Baldonnel via the Holyhead steamer on 10 Sept 1919, there to inherit Bristol F,2bs (seven serials are quoted here). It would be fully re-established as an army co-operation squadron with the absorption of Nos 117 and 141 Squadron cadres on 1 February 1920, adding a motley collection of Airco DH.9As and Avro 504Ks to their establishment. Interestingly Handley Page 0/400 J2259 was still on No 100 Squadron’s books when it crashed into the Irish Sea some 15 miles NW of Holyhead on 17 December 1920. ….”

There is also a short account of RAF goings on in Ireland at that time which may interest you. When I get time to scan the pages tomorrow I’ll send them via PM.

Dave Smith

January 12, 2016 at 5:10 pm in reply to: Handley Page 0/400 J2259 #868460

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An intriguing tale! The Chester mentioned in your first post would have been RAF Sealand in N Wales, but only about four miles from the city. It was often used as a refuelling point for military flights en route to Dublin. As for Holyhead, there was of course no airfield there, Valley being far in the future.
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