😀 Interesting laser warning detection sensor.

Seems like there are no rearward facing LWR sensors:confused:

http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=3807629&c=EUR&s=AIR

it is at the end of the article which talk about several satelitte projects. Elisa is a sattelite made to spy electromagnetic emmissions, not a software. The datas gathered will help to fill spectra database.

Now I can read it thanks. This probabley goes hand in hand with the integration of a SATCOM into Rafale. Are there any news/infos available about SATCOM in the Rafale? Read about plans for it long ago, but nothing has been reported since. Might be a feature of F3+?

Scorpion attacks the credibility of those who know more than he does because he cant make up any form of technical points…

Get real. Nice picture though….

I react on wrong accusations and offences, don’t expect me to be polite or respectful to someone who can’t keep a civilsed discussion.
I’ve no problem to admit that my knowledge in some areas, such as aerodynamics is limited. But I rather stick to what experts such as aeronautical engineers. test pilots or aircraft designers say than what someone on the internet says, especially if this person is completely biased towards to the Rafale and has just one intention bashing the Typhoon on any occassion just to hype his beloved Rafale.
You repeated yourself for many pages now, posting images, explainations and links to websites which mainly desribe the merits of the closed coupled canard configuration. That is all nice, but some of your claims to contradict to what experts say since many years and some of your claims are just guesses and not facts as you advertise them.
What you have “proven” is nothing new and is well recognised by those you call fanboys.

Have they arrived in Switzerland?

IPA3 is there, GT015 has departed Neuburg and might have arrived in the meantime as well.

So the Swiss trials were done with AESA?

Probabley. B301 was is probably is the testbed for the AESA radar.

Q: What does an original Su-27 (reliably) weigh?

~16000-16380 kg according all sources I ever read.

LOL after all these splashes noises about Mr S posts you still ask for an opinion?

Fair enough, i’m NOT trying to demolish Scorpion’s credibility as i don’t realy care, i just don’t think he is qualified to give you the answer your question deserves, more to it he can be found to invent or exagerate reality just to make his points and this is realy pulling the nukin’ hell out of me.

Sorry for saying.

Might it have to do with the fact that this so called Typhoon fanboy is known to be relative neutral and objective and that this so called Typhoon fanboy has contributed to the forum to the benefit of other users while maintaining a relative balanced opinion, in contrast to a certain self proclaimed “expert” who lacks any sense of objectiveness and who is clearly and completely biased towards the Rafale?
Do you seriously believe that anyone takes you for granted if you offend everyone (in different ways) when they don’t fully agree with you? Do you seriously think that someone will rate a biased person higher than well known recognised experts? Sorry but so far you have proven very little, let alone that you limit your argumentation to very narrow areas. No one says you are completely wrong and you might indeed have a better comprehension in this or that area, but the fact that you bash the Typhoon on any occasion to hype your beloved Rafale, the fact that you assume complete superiority or parity for the Rafale in any area, not acknowledging a single weak point and the fact that you do nothing else than this Rafale is better vs Typhoon stuff, doesn’t make you look like objective. Your intention is clear and while no one has a problem with your intention to disprove unproven claims of Typhoon’s superiority, the way you approach this goal is definitely a problem and doesn’t make you look more credible anyway.

Facts are laid out, and i´m not pissed..dont know why i should be.
The fact tells us that 39A was a swingrole 4-gen fighter in the 90:s which lacking some sensorpower of todays state of the art standards, but was state of the art back then.

Multirole/swingrole is what eurofighter just becomed, about 12 years after..am i right?

You are right on what you said, but hope that you got my point. It was not my intention to bash the Gripen, just to stress out some fatcs.