It’s more an issue of spares availability as some obsolete components aren’t in production anymore. Hence the CORP and efforts to qualify other newer equipment on the T1s. That increases fleet commonality and ensures that relevant spare parts remain spareable. Often enough it’s just a formality, but there is a rat tail of logistical amendments entailed to it. You need amended documentation and the link between a part number and aircraft build standard in ESS and much more. What looks simplistic to the external observer may get pretty complicated.
Are they really saying that the present Eurofighter doesn’t have “the sort of “knife-fight in a phone box turning” capability enjoyed by rivals such as the F/A 18E/F or LM F 18″?
Not to mention the Rafale.
Nic
The AoA limit of the Typhoon in its present form is pretty conservative limiting its nose pointing capability. The F/A-18 is superior in this aspect, as is Rafale. With the AMK the problem area is adressed allowing the aircraft to fully exploit its potential and even improving upon it.
Transfering fuel to keep the CG in place is common practice. Whether or not the CFTs affect stability issues at high AoAs is a question that I can’t answer. They are located in between the fuselage strakes and fin so they may have an impact, but that’s speculation. CFTs are more relevant for AG missions anyway so the AoA performance won’t matter that much anyway.
While the saying goes mever say never, I doubt there is something behint the CFTs only with AMK claim. While it’s said that the AMK smoothes integration of heavy stores like Storm Shadow or Taurus it’s apparently not a must. Consider that the CFTs run along the fuselage and are in fact closer to the CG than the stand-off missiles. Furthermore the CFTs are split in three main sections with a transfer tank in the middle. Like the internal fuselage tanks the CFTs can shift fuel from the front to the rear section and the other way round. In other words it sounds like a hoax to me.
Concerning Brimstone we’ll see. It might well be that the customer requires not more than 12 Brimstones which is already plenty. From a technical point of view I see no limitation here that would prevent carriage and employment from the centre wing stations.
Just my 2ct
That’s why a growing number of T2 and even T3 LRIs are being qualified on T1s via the Drop programme and partially by national mods. It’s a phased approach in contrast to a radical retrofit to T2 like standard, as has been done with some of the T1 built IPAs.
If nothing helps pull the lake card. Poor!
The costs for sustaining the T1 fleet buys into the budget for the remaining fleet. The dissimilar standards mean that different upgrades need to be developed and a separate stock of spares to be maintained. Arguably it is possible to upgrade the T1s to a T2 equivalent standard and I definitely agree with you that retiring aircraft which are on average not more than a quater through their service lifes is a pretty counterintuitive decision. Hopes remain that delays in the F-35 programme and the nearing retirement of the Tornado may give the T1 fleet a second chance. T1s are still being upgraded, though we know that a fresh upgrade is no guarantee to preserve these aircraft as the Harrier GR.9 in particular has shown. We’ll see how it ends.
The T1s get closer to the T2 standard with more and more T2 equipment and modifications being intrgrated on those examples.
Nontheless there are still a lot of discrepancies so a common upgrade strategy can’t be pursued as will be the case fot T2 & T3A examples.
guys, this thread gets very difficult to follow :very_drunk:
lol good one ! :eagerness:
Only chit chat, so nothing that’s worth to be followed. 😉
Yes it was and you would be surprised to learn how much wrong information is contained even in those specialised magazines! That doesn’t mean everything is wrong, but errors are possible.
2x1000L + 1x1500L = 3200 kg IIRC
Anyway, correct my calculation for those numbers; 4810 kg fuel. 96,2% assuming 5000kg internal capacity is right. Can you source it?
Fuel weight varies dependent on fuel density. So you are both right and there is another truth as well. I have posted a cockpit shot of DA7 years ago already the AC sitting on the ground and the fuel read out on the HUDCP ROL and MHDD show 4934 & 4940 kg respectively. Approx 5 t is with medium fuel density (F34) IIRC. It’s about +/- 200 kg dependent on the fuel used.
Concerning the built numbers for the RAF EEL, Swerve and Sintra are all right. It’s true however that about 160 ac have been built and delivered to the RAF AND RSAF. No block 20 example has been delivered anyway as this standard isn’t cleared yet i.e. Waiting for its type acceptance.
No. I’m not immediatly aware of any such system on a military fast jet. ACAS has been tested on the F-16 afaik, maybe on other aircraft, but it doesn’t look like being wide spread in operational service.
The Luftwaffe has published a press release of the accodent stating that the leading EF and the Learjet were turning left and than the collision happened. Details have not been released and civil and military aviation authorities investigate. Based on what’s released it looks like the Learjet rammed the leading Eurofighter in the turn damaging its wing and fuselage and some equipment on the wing. The Learjet crashed, one crew is still missing.
Best wishes to their families and friends in these hard times!
Seems like Austria will replace their airforce with Hungarian Gripen C… http://kurier.at/chronik/oesterreich/ungarische-gripen-sollen-wien-sichern/71.253.890
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Austria is thinking about “let our neighbor do the airpolicing for us”, as is the case for some other European nations.
Weird that you still discuss the “where cam CMs” be fitted to a Typhoon. The answer is known for a long time and there is no need to speculate here at all!
Rail launched, it seems.
Thx:eagerness: