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  • in reply to: RuAF News and Development Thread 9 #2359011
    Scorpion82
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    @Teer
    A well considered post. It’s rare these days that such well thought through and explained posts are written here. So from me a thumbs up.:)

    in reply to: RuAF News and Development Thread 9 #2359043
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    I take it the Sukhoi figures don’t includes base model Su-27s sold to Vietnam, China and Indonesia?

    Also does it include 18 Su-30 delivered to India and since returned to Sukhoi?

    I just counted exported Su-30MK variants, so no other Flanker, domestic orders not even the Su-30K.

    in reply to: RuAF News and Development Thread 9 #2360256
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    If we count the aircraft produced under licence and those yet to be delivered we have:

    India: 272 Su-30MK
    Malaysia: 18 Su-30MKM
    Algeria: 44 Su-30MKA
    China: 100 Su-30MKK/MK2
    Vietnam: 24 Su-30MK2
    Indonesia: 4 Su-30MK/MK2 (additional aircraft planned)
    Uganda: 8 Su-30MK2
    Venezuela: 24 Su-30MK2

    = 494 Su-30MK

    in reply to: Eurofighter Typhoon News & Discussions VI #2360810
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    1/5: I never said that it could not be detected, just that the chances are “Low”.

    You implied that other (US) platforms were unaware of being defeated by the F-22, including EA-18Gs and concluded that systems like DASS and the like must be unable to detect the LPI emissions of the APG-77 as well…

    2: Considering that the AN/ALR-94 is the single most expensive and complex component in the F-22 and designed to be the primary detection device, this is exactly what it was designed to look for.
    3: See#2

    That’s again just a claim, extraploated into an assumption which you pass to us as fact. The reality is neither of us knows the relevant details of all systems in question so everything people can up with at this point are assumptions, not more not less. Maybe the ALR-94 can detect these emissions or maybe it can’t.

    4: Never said it could not.

    But you nonetheless use it as an argument claiming that it’s an advantage for the Raptor, when it might be just as good or bad.

    Remember that I was just answering MSphere’s question as to how the F-22 could be superior. Notice he was not asking if it was, only why.

    And I have just adressed your claims…

    in reply to: Eurofighter Typhoon News & Discussions VI #2360882
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    1. It’s called LPI for a reason
    2. The EF’s MAWS is an ACTIVE broadcasting system which can be picked up by the F-22
    3. The EF’s datalink can be picked up by the F-22
    4. Leaky EM can be picked up by the F-22
    5. It’s called LPI for a reason
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    1/5 It doesn’t mean it can’t be detected, just the odds of detecting it are lower.

    2. Neither the operating frequencies of the MAWS nor the frequency coverage of the AN/ALR-94 are known so your claim is pure speculation.

    3. Proof?

    4. Leaky EM of F-22s might be detected as well

    in reply to: Eurofighter Typhoon News & Discussions VI #2287802
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    🙁

    That is why Rafale usually simulated semi-active BVR missiles when training with the Typhoons because otherwise it would be equally boring.

    Lol so one occassion = usually?

    in reply to: Rafale Thread #13 #2287808
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    I’m sure you’d have say “RIP” if the whole thing ended up in a CFIT :rolleyes:

    Definizely, I’m glad the pilot made and it’s a pity that the MN lost another one. Don’t get me wrong I’m NOT appreciating that the aircraft was lost and sorry if my post left this impression. My point is more related to the myth created by one and repeated by some others as well that the Rafale can’t get out of control. The reason could be an FCS failure or sudden actuator failure as well, this would be technical explainations if it wasn’t exceeding aerodynamic limits. While the later could be blamed on the pilot it also shows that the FCS may not provide full carefree handling and that the aircraft may indeed get out of control. Again that’s not necessary unusual per se, it would just debunk the mere…

    in reply to: Rafale Thread #13 #2287949
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    Wrt flying an aircraft it means one thing, the aircraft stalled and in the case wasn’t recoverable possibly due to altitude or something else.

    Enlighten us how losing control of an aircraft can be interpreted any differently…

    in reply to: Rafale Thread #13 #2287956
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    Some additional info about the recent crash of Rafale M24 has been posted here:
    http://rafalenews.blogspot.de/2012/07/rafale-m24-lost-pilot-is-safe.html

    Most notable excerpt:

    According to Air and Cosmos, the pilot would have lost control of his aicraft during a low atltitude BFM training with a USNavy F-18 off the cost of the Ibiza Island, Spain.

    So much about the Rafale being unstallable and controllable in all stages of flight. This puts another myths, not to say lie of a certain troll to the rest. It also demonstrates that Eurofighter’s often laughed at approach with the automatic low speed recovery system (ALSR) wasn’t the worst idea!

    in reply to: Eurofighter Typhoon News & Discussions VI #2288094
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    Looks like guns only.

    in reply to: Eurofighter Typhoon News & Discussions VI #2288344
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    “Pfeiffer notes that the Eurofighter has better acceleration and can out-climb the F-22. ”

    Is this backed up by numbers?
    Just a rough look indicates they have similar TWR @ empty, I guess the question is what the fuel load is- the Typhoon having external weapons carriage would hardly help.

    The Typhoons were stripped of external stores for these BFMs…

    in reply to: Eurofighter Typhoon News & Discussions VI #2288452
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    What’s good about this article is that both sides are heard. Overall the arguments are sound from both sides. One can expect that both aircraft scored kills overall and as Eagle1 put it they are probably closely matched in this area as far a raw dogfighting performance is concerned. With missiles and HMD the advantage would be on Typhoon’s side in this area. It’s fair to notice that the Germans stripped off the tanks to ensure that the aircraft would be as clean as possible. The observed performances are sound overall, better acceleration and climb performance can be imagined, ultimately the TWR is almost identical, but clean the Typhoon is sleeker and likely somewhat better when it comes to the thrust/drag ratio which affects both acceleration and climb performance. Instantaneous turning performance of the Typhoon isn’t a surprise either, as isn’t the Raptors high AoA performance thanks to its TVC.

    in reply to: Eurofighter Typhoon News & Discussions VI #2288529
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    Another article from the Germans performance at Red Flag – Alaska.

    http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/in-focus-german-eurofighters-impress-during-red-flag-debut-373312/

    Some excerpts:

    The idea was to bring the German aircraft up to the same standards as the UK Royal Air Force’s Typhoons, Grune says. The RAF’s squadrons have traditionally been on the leading edge of fully exploiting the fighter’s capabilities, for example during last year’s NATO-led operation over Libya.

    The biggest change was to the aircraft’s Euro*radar Captor sensor’s software, which was vastly improved, Grune says. New radio, mission data and countermeasures software systems were also added, along with other, classified modifications.

    But Grune says the biggest change was not to the Typhoon’s hardware or software, but to the Luftwaffe’s mentality for using the aircraft. “Why is the British air force, for example, so superior with the Eurofighter and we are not?” he asks. “Simply because our force didn’t put the focus on certain areas.”

    The Luftwaffe’s mentality began to shift only towards the end of 2011 and the beginning of this year, he says.

    As part of the Distant Frontier exercise, F-22s from the USAF’s 525th Fighter Squadron faced off against the German fighters in visual-range basic fighter manoeuvres (BFM) combat training.

    While Grune does not directly say that the Eurofighters emerged as the overall victors, he strongly implies it.

    “I put out some whiskey. If they come back with some good performances, and if you know what the goal is from a BFM setup, and you achieve that, then I will pay you whiskey,” he says. “And I paid quite a lot of whiskey.”

    That account, however, is strongly disputed by USAF sources flying the F-22. “It sounds as though we have very different recollections as to the outcomes of the BFM engagements that were fought,” one Raptor pilot says.

    USAF sources say that the Typhoon has good energy and a pretty good first turn, but that they were able to outmanoeuvre the Germans due to the Raptor’s thrust vectoring. Additionally, the Typhoon was not able to match the high angle of attack capability of the F-22. “We ended up with numerous gunshots,” another USAF pilot says.

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    F-22s faced off against German fighters

    Regardless of their differing accounts, the USAF was grateful for the chance to train with the Luftwaffe. “We optimise the opportunities we get to participate in dissimilar air combat training, as those opportunities are all too rare,” says Lt Col Paul Moga, commander of the 525th Fighter Squadron. “Our recent BFM hops with the German air force Typhoons were outstanding. While certain uncontrollable factors such as weather and manoeuvring limitations did not allow for full-up engagements, it is suffice to say that there was much learning across the board. The details of each set-up are privy only to the pilots that flew them, as that is the sacred standard among fighter pilots. One thing is for certain – Raptors and Typhoons are a lethal combination.”

    Grune says that the Raptor’s advantage lies in its stealth and ability to dominate air-to-air fights from beyond visual range. That is not disputed by USAF sources.

    “Its unique capabilities are overwhelming from our first impressions in terms of modern air combat,” Pfeiffer says. “But once you get to the merge, which is only a very small spectrum of air combat, in that area the Typhoon doesn’t have to fear the F-22 in all aspects.”

    The Typhoons were stripped of their external fuel tanks and slicked off as much as possible before the encounter with the Raptors, says Grune, who adds that in that configuration, the Typhoon is an “animal”.

    Pfeiffer notes that the Eurofighter has better acceleration and can out-climb the F-22. *Additionally, he says that the Raptor sinks when it is using its thrust vectoring capabilities, although one USAF source says he is skeptical of the German claims.

    Overall, Grune says the two aircraft are closely matched in the visual range arena, but Pfeiffer says the Typhoon is the superior *dogfighter.

    At least this time we know it happened.:dev2:

    in reply to: Rafale Thread #13 #2288695
    Scorpion82
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    Good to know that the pilot is well. Could it be that just the M2X crashes thus far!?

    in reply to: Eurofighter Typhoon News & Discussions VI #2288832
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    As I’ve been saying for a while, the EFT has been badly managed from the start leading to cost overrun and a platform with very limited capabilities for a aircraft supposed to be 4.5+ Gen.

    “Very limited capabilities” depends on how you are looking at it. Very limited multirole capabilities in comparison to other types of that generation is certainly true, but as a fighter the Typhoon isn’t lacking and that’s what it was designed for in the first place. Of course there is room for further improvement in the AA area as well.

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