there is a nice collection of Typhoon being gun shot here :
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5934&p=1091008#p1091008
Interestingly pictures 2, 4 & 5 are all from the very same engagement thus it’s not multiple gun shots, but just one. Pictures 1 & 3 don’t show a “gun shot” either. The M2k in the first pic is already very slow and the Typhoon isn’t yet in the gun sight itself any shots fired at this point would have missed. Pic three is similar albeit the Rafale is somewhat faster but a gun kill looks less likely from that perspective, considering that Typhoon’s nose is starting to show into the direction of the Rafale, with the Rafale itself being relative slow already. A possible time frame for a short would be extremely short.
Ah, the infamous Italian Eurofighter “F-16 killer”. The problem with your question is that the pilot obviously did his homework in piloting, but not so well in geography when he was at school. The turkish crescent is horizontal. The pakistani crescent is inclinated but upwards, not downwards. So in his artistic attempt, he messed up the flags of both of them…
Such markings are usually applied by the maintenance crew not by the pilot himself. And there is a difference between geography and messing up a flag of a country.;)
Wrt the “PAF” encounter I asked myself the very question Yudhishtir has put forward. That guy says “we” and if he was an exchange pilot you wonder whether a whole TuAF sqn is made up of Pakistani exchange pilots. That the RAF jocks were “shocked” would just confirm the point that F-16s rarely score kills at all against Typhoons or that they were simply surprised by the skills of the Pakistani(s?). Occasional kills occur, but that doesn’t mean that aircraft A is automatically superior to aircraft B. Thus far everything points to the other direction including Vipen jocks admiring Typhoon’s performance. And better don’t ask the Viper jocks from the BAF, RNLAD and USAFE who recently measured up against GAF Typhoons.;)
Yes you are right nic, super duper would have fitted better.;)
It would be much wiser to use the extra range to avoid the enemy fighters altogether, and either try to go undetected
Impossible as we all know as only the Rafale is a stealthy upper super plane with Spectra cloaking device (why does it need it anyway?). You know Typhoon has such a big RCS and crappy ECM it can’t hide so it must fight its way through the defences.:p
Sorry couldn’t resist.
On a more particular note wrt the TGP the centreline position was the easiest way to integrate the pod quickly. There were/are concerns wrt the FoV of the pod if loaded to a forward fuselage station and of course it is not wise to trade range for one missile. I somewhat doubt we’ll ever see an LDP attached to the front fuselage station as it was previously planned, even Eurofighter adapted its graphics and the conformally carried LDP is gone.
Bloodshot :
Well , most SU-35 and Rafale ‘s drivers will disagree with that . Foxbats , Mig-31s and M2000 ‘s drivers might also have their words here …
My personal opinion is that the Typhoon is a souped-up M2000 even if it ‘s based on an average design with some obvious mistakes wrt aerodynamics , AtoG role (lack of heavy wet points) and overall discretion (lacking in RCS , EMCON and electronical means) .Cheers .
Ever heard about requirements? So if the Typhoon has crappy aerodynamics while being a souped up M2k, we must conclude that the Mirage had crappy aerodynamics as well and that it took Dassault some 3 decades from Mirage 3 to Rafale to get it finally right.:rolleyes::diablo:
@toan,
no Typhoon can’t carry heavy stores plus wing tanks.
In general could we get over this now?:mad:
@EEL
The former. Locally assembled aircraft should Be delivered from December 2016.
EEL
There is a recce version of the Litening dubbed Recce Lite. This pod is an option and is in fact considered by the Luftwaffe. The Recce Lite has been demonstrated in Switzerland in November 2008.
The Indians have a schedule which currently calls for an introduction in December 2014. Saab appears to never give up and even stay or participate if they have already lost.
Ok Scorpion, let’s read the link togather :rolleyes:
No wonder that it become dificult to believe their claim after that. It is not serious really.
So you’ll have to excuse me when they clame something which is true finally but with such BS on the official Eurofighter site, it’s obvious they really treat us as retards…. I mean… they treat YOU as retards (It’s not us who pay the bill so…) 😀
sorry dude but you appear to have a serious comprehension problem! They neither claim to have invented unstable fbw aircraft, nor delta winged aircraft! Further more pressure point is a correct term, your deficient knowledge isn’t their fault, but your very own. So the bs as you call it is your very own invention and a sh!t load of rolleye smilies won’t mask that fact. BTW Dassault’s description of the Rafale doesn’t sound any less fantastic.
Oops:o
@EEL,
we’ll unfortunately not see such paint jobs on the Typhoon as neither of the Luftwaffe units converting to the type is a tiger squadron.:(
Wrt the engines 15% more thrust is what the current EJ200 are capable of by programming the DECU software accordingly, albeit at the expense of life time. Eurojet has suggested a two-staged approach to boost thrust while at least retaining current engine life time. In a first stage the thrust would have been increased by 20% and in a second one by 30%. This is old news however and there haven’t been any more recent information at all. I personally don’t expect to see stronger engines at all. But as you I think that the current thrust is sufficient for the time to come.
Back on topic!
Here’s another article on the upgrade plans from avweek.
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story.jsp?id=news/awst/2011/06/06/AW_06_06_2011_p24-330649.xml&headline=Plans%20For%20Further%20Rafale%20Upgrades%20Emerge%20&channel=defense
Well c-seven quoted the website link posted by A.I. and made his cheap shot at Eurofighter, not at EEL.
Well but he insists that Eurofighter claims that this is somehow unique to the aircraft, which isn’t the case if you read the link. Thus it’s more or less the usual Eurofighter bashing.:rolleyes:
And wrt omnirole, while it fits in the French view, it’s not half that important or “great” as it sounds and usually exaggerated by the fans.