But Su-30M2 is a low risk option. Already developed with Indian and Malaysian money. modern and up to date, ready to replace legacy Su-27 and 30 airframes.
Su-30M2 is based on Chinese versions. You are probably referring to Su-30SM.
But eventually China will probably be the dominant one and their relationship might end up like US and S.Korean arms industry.
Russia is certainly going to be the junior partner because in terms of economy and population is nowhere near China, but I would not say it is comparable to South Korea because links with India are also very strong -amongst other things-.
I’m mentioning it because it used to be an option and IIRC it was initially considered when the SMT was the 9.17 variant, but they gave up on it afterwards (with 9.19)..
That was MiG-29SMT-2. There were several options:
– Install two extra pylons.
– Install MiG-29M wing, increasing payload up to 5.600kg.
KumAAP is planning to make 18 of the type this year. I think they manufactured 15 in 2014.
Are there any data on operating costs and how well it compares to a helicopter of same category with classical configuration? I wonder if the coaxial configuration adds a lot to the running costs.
Couple of news about restarting Tu-160 production. In the first link there is an interview with Viktor Murakhovski (member of the Military-Industrial comission and former army officer). Some points he makes:
– PAK-DA development will take 23-24 years, mass production 27-28.
– Up to 40 Tu-160 are needed. 36 for a division, 2 spares and 2 for training. This will allow replacement of Tu-95.
– Production could be organised in 2.5 years. Main problem is the engine. No obstacles for avionics and airframe. Financing is the main obstacle.
http://www.bigness.ru/articles/2015-05-06/tu160/147956/
In the second link there is an analysis; 20 Tu-160M would cost +5 billion $. The author states that there might be 2 frames left, but most sources agreed that none were left after 2008.
It also goes with the story that one of the Su-27PD/Su-30 almost crashed after doing a airial refueling with an US tanker.
He lost both engines, and made at last an successfull Engine startup while gliding down to motherearth.
Is the refuelling kit compatible? The story sounds a bit fishy to me.
Apparently Shoigu wants to restart Tu-160 production… I love that plane as much as the next guy, but this is so, so dumb.
The Il-102 was the ground attack aircraft that lost out to the Su-25. For some reason the Ilyushin bureau continued developing it well after the Soviet government rejected it in favor of the Frogfoot. Was it the right choice, how did it compare? The Il-102 used turbofan engines and had nearly twice the payload.
Maybe I am wrong, but my impression is that the Il-102 is a development of the Il-42, which lost the Shturmovik competition against Sukhoi/MiG proposal. Il-42 was equipped with AM-9F engines, with half the thrust of R-95Sh (*).
After Il-42 was rejected it was modernised by Ilyushin with RD-33I engines, then it received Il-102 designation.
* Il-42 was also heavier.
An immaculate 9-12.
Perhaps the unpainted one? Both shots were taken at Kubinka.
My favorite variant, the MiG-29UBT comes out.
That’s a blast from the past! Any idea of what they using it for?
Thanks for the translation TR1
Could be Venezuela (despite already having Su-30MK2)…talks is very vague might not mean anything serious.
I am not sure. Venezuela is really struggling at the moment. Peru could be a candidate. Argentina is also struggling, and has never operated Russian fighter aircraft before. They have been looking at FC-1 recently. Colombia could be an option I guess…
I agree that Flanker is an overkill for most countries. A MiG-35 would be enough for most of them, except Argentina and Brazil, who could be interested in the extra range and payload.
I wonder if they are still there – or have been scrapped ??
AFAIR there is only 1 front line unit left flying with 9.12, based at Millerovo: 31 GIAP. Mladenov stated in an article that this unit was likely to receive the MiG-29SMT already ordered.
Maybe it is an aircraft that will be exported?
Russian Air Force to get 30 MIG-35 fighter jets under rearmament program
Great acquisition. The Fulcrum is perfectly fine to do many missions and the contract will be a boost for RSK MiG. Who would have guessed this in the mid-late 90s!
Reading Ajai Shukla about MMRCA is a nonsense. Je dot crazy about Dassault after he was denied a flight in a Rafale B
😀 That would explain a lot. IIRC he did change his views on Gripen after flying in one.
I stopped reading his nonsense after he criticised the “Su-30MKI with Tumansky engines” and “the MiG-21 Bison with Elta radar”.
Wouldn’t it make more sense to go Su-35S?
Yes, but it would be more expensive.
– I think first four delivered Su-30M2 were actually leftovers originally destined for China..
I don’t have any data on China cancelling any Su-30 acquisitions. A license for 200 Su-27SK was indeed cancelled, but did this license include Su-27UBK? Under the agreement, fuselage was produced in China, with Russia providing avionics, radars and engines.
– Su-30M2 is virtually a twin-seat version of the Su-27SM. Originally it should have been an upgrade of the Su-27UB but availability of new built KnAAPO twinseaters for China/Indonesia/Vietnam/Uganda enabled a decision to make few more of em for RusAF. That means based on beefed-up structure of Su-30, additionally with wet fins. Radar should be the same as on Su-27SM.
I still don’t get this decision, unless Su-30M2 were built from stocked components. Why would you want to build these when the same factory can produce Su-35 -or acquire more SM at IAPO-?
Many may believe Russian industry lacks the technology but I don’t… there’s no doubt Russian industry is capable of producing a new bomber – the question is how good it will be (i.e. how well it will perform in the missions that it is eventually assigned). As for resources – well, they are there in spite of recent economic difficulties, the question is whether they will be distributed in the direction of this programme or allocated to something else.
Tupolev does have issues with workforce. In 2012 it was at follows:
52.4% of workforce is more than 50 years old.
27.3% of workforce is more than 60 years old.
23.9% of workforce is less than 30 years old.
Average: 43 years old.
Retirement age for men in Russia is 60, 55 for women.