It was probably a mistake to retire both MiG-27 and Su-17. I guess at the time it looked like single-engined aircraft were too vulnerable against MANPADS.
Single engine combat aircraft were retired to save money during Yeltsin government. And yes, it did leave a gap in capabilities, which was noticed already in Chechnya.
Quite on the contrary, I expect US made spares to be considerably more expensive.. A $2.6mil RD-93 can hardly be assembled from costlier parts than a $4.2mil F404, that just doesn’t add up..
I was talking in general for a single aircraft, not a comparison. Many assume that MiG-29 is more expensive to operate because it has a higher fuel consumption, but fuel is only a fraction of the total cost. See link below for an airline
Thanks for the link MSphere, I will have a look at the new data.
Brainless repeating of the same old BS is getting tiresome… especially if it’s without a hinch of anything measurable.. cold numbers say the opposite.. I can’t say whether the F-16 gulps fuel faster than a MiG-29 or whether the F-34/JP-8 is so much more expensive than Jp54, but the fact is that, despite its two engines, the MiG-29 is still cheaper to fly..
Fuel is only a fraction of the flying cost. I would expect maintenance and spare parts to be more expensive (as in civil airlines).
Interestingly, the F-16C is more costly to operate than a MiG-29, as Polish AF have found out. If we estimate Flanker cost to be 30% more than for a Fulcrum, then the operating cost of the Su-30MK and F-16C should be about the same (even less given the current RUB/USD exchange rate).
I am not sure what data you are using, but the one I have seen shows that the MiG-29 is more expensive to operate. Maybe one of the modern ones (SMT is 40% cheaper compared to 9.12A) is comparable.

http://alejandro-8en.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/flying-cost-of-different-aircraft-in.html
The other day TASS interviewed Yuri Bely, General Director of the Research Institute of Instrumentation (NIIP) “VV Tikhomirov”. The journalist asked him about the Zaslon-AM, used in upgraded MiG-31BM. His answer was that the potential of this model had been exhausted.
http://tass.ru/opinions/interviews/3957569
A while ago there was talk of another improved MiG-31. Could this comment be related? I was wondering if Tikhomirov is working on another Zaslon variant.
Israel was offering Kfir Block 60 fighters to Argentina. Perhaps Colombia could also look at those fighters as a cheap option to replace the existing Kfirs.
That Kfir version also uses the J79 engine, thus the issue is not addressed. Russia has offered the MiG-35:
https://sputniknews.com/russia/201701271050064430-russia-columbi-mig-29/
Serbia to receive additional Mig-29 fighter jets and Buk missiles from Belarus
This caught me by surprise. I wonder if the entire fleet will be upgraded to the same standard. Russia and Belarus offer different modernization. According to Serbian sources, the work will be carried out in Serbia with the help of Russian technicians.
Wrong thread.
MiG-35 will be presented to the public tomorrow:
MiG-29 (9.12)
range without external tanks (3300 kg of fuel):
low hight of M = 0.5 – 710 km.
at an altitude of 1430 km
with a single external tank (3300 kg + 1175 kg)
flight height of 13 km, M = 0.8 – 2100 km
Thanks for the extra information paralay. There is a typo in the bold phrase, is that 14.30 km?
Details about import substitution program from 2015-2016, hopefully will bring price down, SM costing more than Su-35 is absurd:
I am not surprised as imported equipment is paid in $. With the rouble being so low it does increase the cost substantially.
The first MiG-29 variant did not fulfill Soviet requirements. These stated a range of 800 kms with internal fuel and 2.750 at high altitude with a drop tank. The first version (9.12) managed 700 and 2.100 respectively.
http://alejandro-8en.blogspot.co.uk/2016/07/fuel-load-in-different-mig-29-variants.html
What I’m still rather curious about is why Egypt went with the MiG-29M? Since they already have F-16’s, some Flanker variant would have offered them better power projecting capabilities (they are purchasing those Mistrals after all). Did they get a very good deal on it or what?
Probably for political reasons (Israel). Now they have both Western and Russian suppliers.
Russian Ministry of Defense (w/o specifics):
36x Su-30SM for ~ 60 bil RUB in Apr 2016
50x Su-35S for over 60 bil RUB in Jan 2016
Thanks MSphere, some data from Kommersant for MiG-35 -not confirmed-.
37x MiG-35 for ~ 35 bil RUB in Apr 2014
Now the only export Flanker is the canard-ed, PESA-ed, TVC-ed Su-30MKI/MKA/SM and that is, price wise, a different beast (more expensive than Su-35S, actually, due to foreign content)
I am not so sure, as Su-30MKI derivatives have been produced in large numbers during many years, and some of the clients (Kazakhstan) buy them at Russian rates.
Well, i’ve seen those articles that MIG contract with Egypt was around the corner.. so when was the contract signed?
Contract was confirmed in 2016 by MiG deputy director:
https://ria.ru/defense_safety/20160205/1370342560.html
The entire saga can be found here. Use google translate for translation…
http://alejandro-8.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/rusia-y-egipto-posible-contrato-por.html
MIG is for sure in no shape to just keep producing airframes by the scores on MIG’s funds, and just hope a mediocre or small contract will fall from heaven.
At the moment is producing airframes for Egypt, and it is a very important contract. It seems that Russia will acquire more MiG-29Ks, India could follow the same path. I do not see the Fulcrum as a money pit, even if the 35 suffers from delays and VKS does not seem that interested. IMO the issue is that it is probably not that cheaper compared to Su-30 variants.