Our Chinese members are able to read the Chinese press about the J-20. What data are reported and what about the future mission role of the J-20?!

No official release. Rumours everywhere, chinese media cited all sorts of foreign press to avoid hidden trouble however some foreign press use information from Chinese forums where those rumours started…:D

J-11 is due to winding down actually. single seater version anyways. not much advantage over J-10 over in term of basic airdefence intercept missions. the MKKs and J-11BS will form the tip of the spear of the strike force.

” Will they ever get the J-20 to land on a carrier – I don’t see why not… “

Chengdu is very ambitious. they want carrier contracts as well. they are working on the detailed technologies.

J-15/rehashed T-10K/Su-33 is seen as a the intial solution by the carrier folks. not meant to go past 2025. if size of carrier is of any indication, sooner or later there will be a new internal compeitition for a new mid-sized 5+gen manned carrier aircraft (may be J-10 replacement as well)
we shall see.

Plus the rumour of a big black bat?:rolleyes:
Wouldn’t it be very complicated to make a carrier variant of J-20?

Personally I would really like to see a two seats JH-20 variant, may be similar concept as FB-22, capable of carrying big ramjet AAM or ASM, less maneuverability but better supercruise and stealth. Taking rules of intercepter, AWACS/Carrier sniper, or even 6-gen UCAV squadron command aircraft:rolleyes: hell even harder to make:(

It seems that you prefer to rather play with words instead of delievering any meaningful comeback regarding techique details.

I guess thats another typical feature of an typical aerodynamicist-wanna-be.

The link I provided basically told you that very simple concept of lifting-body or body that creates the lift (whatever words you want to play with, LOL)

And yes, lifting-body just means a body where generates lift, don’t dodge, and yes, NASA has built many subsonic, under-atomsphere, low mach lifting-body demonstrator where the aircraft has NO WINGS and the lift is created by the lifting-body.

So don’t waste my time, your amaterism has betrayed your wanna-be-ness, so we all know you just get pwned, I have no time to waste on you on word-playing where I am sure you are quite good at.

Please can we move on to next topic related to the fighter itself rather than typing more personal insults than technical terms?

Well I wish I can see the inside of a WS10 Nozzle. The Nozzle of an AL31FP’s is made of three layers of skirts, all made of Ti Alloy. The darkish color of the skirt from the outer side is due to the heat treatment given during the fabrication stage. The Whitish color inside the nozzle (seen dark with ash here) is due to the ANB coating. The number of plates on the skirt all around seems exactly with the number in Al31FP engine. Also the position of the flame stabilizers and diffusers.. But then once I see the WS10 Nozzle.. I can tell the difference..

so judging from the nozzle this one is not very similar to AL31 right?

Currently two voices, one said it’s AL-31 variant with new nozzle; the other one said it’s WS-10G

anyway I think there will be an official announcement very soon regarding this.

I do recall it taking off with significantly higher AoA than the J-20.
BREATHE. I am not saying J-20 is crap. 😎

None of that taken mate :diablo:
I’m not some 13 year old kid who go nuts about almost anything…
I’m in this forum because I thought we got a lot people talking technical and sense here, please don’t prove me wrong:)

Chinese trolls are in full power these days. Flanker would turn this bus with wings inside out. Have you noticed how slow and clumsy its take off was?

Please enlight all of us with the video of the super fast and agile first take off of T-50:D

uh oh, someone sounds butthurt. 😎

Somewhat modified? it looks nothing alike, are you blind?

Flankerism? Why you bring the PAK-FA into this, can’t handle someone talking about your beloved “king of air combat”?

hey you’d better stop this mate, before some Mods came around for something you said:p

Dear, do you know how did HL-10 take-off?
You threw a rock, it will fly, but a object fly with wing, the principle is totally different. Awake my friend.

So let time to say, but not you?:p

how did it take off has nothing to do with it’s lift, as I happen to fly gliders I have to say sadly I need a air tow or winch to get off the ground but once in the air I got a LD ratio of around 35! ironic isn’t it?

The point is HL-10 have a good enough L/D ratio in subsonic speed for it to FLY without wing. If you threw a rock, it will not fly, it’s a trajectory of parabola:D

oh… and you are absolutly right J-20 does not have a wing.:diablo:
the purpose of lift body design is not to get rid of the wing, but contribute as much lift as it could in a acceptable L/D ratio.

Yes let time to say, before you start

It’s won’t be late, after you show this at air-show.

this again… see my point?:p