Nice that you priced my joke. In an era of spell-checkers it’s harder and harder to make grammatical mistakes.
Even those that are perpendicular? Don’t think so.
I don’t see any door/panel edges perpendicular to center line…
or shall I say it’s just a prototype to get away…? as ppl suggested for PAKFA?:D
Notice that too, what function does this twist perform in aerodynamics?
Delays stall on wingtip as it has lower AOA
could also decrease the torsion and bending stress of the wing
This is very second prototype, PAV-2. So, should I look at these lovely sexagonal APU and engine bay vent inlets, exhaust or these perfectly straight panel lines perpendicular to aircraft CL? Or should I post some photos from other LO engineer nightmare?
i know they are sexy but… you mean hexagonal right?:diablo:
all line’s are parallel to current wave lobe don’t they?
leading/trailing edge of the wing, oh CL is also a common wave lobe for most stealth design
80’s design, check better the F-35 or this
The Raptor is old, is a old design based on old technology and old tolerances
And as the Yf-22 zigzag panels decreased when they went to the F-22, and decreased again when they went to the F-35, they decreased on every new design
people can’t realize it because their raptor fetish, but such thing has happened, the F-22 and the J-20 are old engineering
The F-35 and the Pakfa are modern engineering
1. Zigzag panels are increased as YF-22 became F-22.
2. Number of bay doors may decrease due to better integrated design but parallel edge principle will never die…![]()
3. Because that’s the basics of any radar stealth design, new six-gen toys included…
so… talk about old engineering, i don’t see any 1-3 gen fighters have zigzag doors do they??
Hotdog: Not at all, just discussing it :).
Starriki: Wow, a whole two sawtooth extensions, very difficult construction right there. I will repeat what I said, zero evidence exists that J-20 is somehow ahead of PAK-FA in terms of RCS. Vice versa is also true.
Also, since we are on this silly zigzag topic, take a look at Pak-Fas landing gear doors. OMFG, there are all sorts of angles and tooth like formations.
Neither did I start this ‘silly’ topic nor did I said anything about PAK-FA has no ‘silly’ zigzags.
I’m just proving the points of zigzags are useless or oh F-22 doesn’t have it etc are a bit wrong.;)
Designing a flexible joint on a high steam pressure circuit is more complicated than this…
This is a matter of tolerances and structure, anyway the F-22 does not have your zigzag fetish as the Yf-22 had
I think it’s more about aerodynamic forces, vibration and fatigue…
And you didn’t read this post did ya 😀
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showpost.php?p=1686261&postcount=478
Production F-22.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/59/F-22_Raptor_landing_at_Nellis_AFB_-_030529-F-2185F-001.jpguh oh, I see many panels without “zigzags”.
you sure? :diablo:



oh well, and what about YF-23A? X-32A/B? X-35A/B/C, these kinda prototypes of LO aircrafts?
There you go mate, very first prototype of YF-23 as you requested:cool:


Do you realize that a lot of your holy sawthooth thingie went out when the yf-22 was finished as the f-22?
Do you seriously think is that hard to manufacture and stuff a door with such shape?
Probably the maintenance teams mechanical engineers and industrial ones (thinking on production costs) just said ‘wtf? do you want such complicated assembling for a damn door for your stealth?, ok tell me what is the gain for this?, then the pro stealth aerospace engineers said…’0.0005%’….then the mechanical engineers just said…..”change this thing a$$holes”
I hate to say this but it appears that you clearly don’t know much about steath design mate…:diablo:
It IS pretty hard to make toothed doors actually, especially aerodynamically. Early test flights of YF-23 got at least one of the big toothed doors bend or torn then they have to increase the number (thus decrease the size) of the tooth. That could also explain why J-20 have relatively small tooth on the bay doors to begin with.
Apperantly IMO J-20 is almost ready for all aspect RCS and IR test, which is much earlier than T-50 judging from all the information we get so far…
About the shiny nozzle
From Wiki,
…shiny metal surfaces, which have low emissivities both in the visible wavelengths and in the far infrared. Such surfaces can be used to reduce heat transfer in both directions; an example of this is the multi-layer insulation used to insulate spacecraft.
and from lecture notes:diablo:
as the lecture notes goes on:
The emissivity for most paints is about 0.9 regardless of colour, in the infra-red region.
they deliberately made the polished shiny surface to reduce IR radiation then?
what is the point you are trying to make by bringing more airplanes in?
he might be suggesting that this J-20 is more complete than an average prototype :diablo:
Good work CAC:D
Do you realize I made that J-20 image by modifying Paralay’s drawing? It shows what the canards might look like if it had forward sweep on the trailing edge. I did not have the Rafael in mind when I drew that.
I find it hilarous you used my fake picture to prove the J-20 is influenced by another aircraft. I also notice you’ve posted this on another website as well. Maybe some day it will be traced back here where this silly rumour started. :diablo:
apparently people can say J-20 has the same layout as the Wright Brothers’ design as both aircraft have canard and all-moving rudder:diablo:
It is confirmed that Chengdu air space will be closed from 1300-1500 Local (0500-0800 UTC) So… get ready to receive high res photo and video of the bird in the air soon people:D:D
I wondered why they didn’t go that way as well. Here’s an impression using Paralay’s drawing. Looks rather like the SAAB proposal.
may be something to do with the vortex generation and guidence
I think they were inadvertently shown a couple of months back…
I’m sure the eagle-eyed will note the head-on outline of the aircraft in the left-bottom MFD…
This is a model shown on an airshow in 06 or 08… so…