My point is clearly lost on you.
BTW, I was only half joking with my remark about showing off to Robert Gates though. You don’t gather much useful test data in less than 20 minutes and the aircraft did not seem to be instrumented particularly extensively – no strain gauges all over the place, unlike the T-50. The apparent lack of follow-up flights so far lends further credence to the theory that this maiden sortie was mainly a publicity stunt, not the start of the actual test campaign (yet).
There is always another one for static test, why fit strain guages all over the flying one? I haven’t seen that on flying T-50 either, can you plz show me one?
also… How dare they fly publicly if not enough ‘actual’ test and tuning has already been done? J-20 has a very active configuration, the tuning of control law would be extremely complicated. Again what were those low/high speed taxi and engine test for before it’s first flight then?:rolleyes:
Even my RC planes need hell lots of tests and tuning before it’s first flight:p
and more extensive flight test has always been Yanliang’s job, not in Chengdu.
maybe that’s why no more flights had been spoted.
some more fan art…![]()
good, bet for what this time, eat a hat again or a keyboard?:dev2:
I should halt my RC J-20 project and start making chocolate hats and keyboards…:D Might make very good money
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All we want is blue coloured links with cute underlines not bold ### symbols 😎
Let’s all be more patient as T-50-2 is almost out now and we are very likely to see new progress of J-20 as well. At the same time I’m waiting happily for LCA mk2 too. what a year for avi-fans:rolleyes:
Again… for all these claims, arguments, and rumours: time will tell;)
The one area where China still lags behind is avionics. Remember Pakistanis wanting to fit French missiles and European radars onto their JF 17s ?
Yet India use completely indigenous radar and missiles:D
Check the ‘Real World’ aircraft inventories, capabilities & delivery systems today & projected.
Hmmm… nobody beats India in planning the future…
When you’re the darling customer (and strategic bulwark) of the West, Israel & Russia you’ll get access to some pretty impressive w/systems and ToT.
1. India needs to thank China for this one 😎
2. Typical fish and fishing story
I think a lot of people with manufacturing background would kind of agree (that computer software has destroyed talent) if this was directed at the CATIA wielding comunity.
don’t know much about CATIA but I can’t live without Solid Edge and NX now:D
The main wheel retracted vertically not horizontally.
The place where is set as internal fuel tank in drawing behind the cockpit, usually put in avionics.
I think she’s right about the landing gear, judging from the attached pic.
I recognized the pic was drawn nicely, but computer software also destroyed many talents
Request permission to laugh at this comment, please:D?
I believe most people with any sort of modern engineering background would strongly disagree with you:cool:
Can I ask for a favor from some of our Chinese users regarding detailed translation of this pic?
More or less I know which systems and components are represented but still I would be thankful for an accurate translation…
left column:
Inlet, fuel tanks, Main weapon bay, side weapon bay, APU/AMAD/TMS, OBIGGS,
right column:
case and accessories, Lubrication system , Drag chute bay, hydraulic systems
I think the contrast of this pic was somehow altered from the original drawing…
Paralay:
Do you really deem that cockpit and canopy will be same volum in variant aircraft?
How big will be the PAKFA whose cockpit is enlarged same as F-22?
as there are tiles on the ground, they can be used to find the vanishing point,
then we can have pretty accurate ratio of length between the two;)
however….
muttley, its a cg that was posted in an earler J-20 thread..
From original poster
……这个就是真的,起落架P掉了,手工描绘过了一些细节。我3D渲染还没掌握好,暂时出不了这样的效果。
…this is real, landing gears PSed out, changed some details by hand. I haven’t master 3D rendering, can’t make this effect yet.
http://lt.cjdby.net/redirect.php?goto=findpost&ptid=1065813&pid=27255875&fromuid=285557
🙂
hmmm very close…:D
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new pic spoted, it is based on a real photo but landing gears PSed out.
My primary data told one who works for 611 was 22 meters long 14 meters wide on QQ.
The J-20 is significantly larger than Su-27, please notice its wing area and volum of fuselage.
Considered the dehedral of J-20’s wing, and little higher banking angle, its wing span is more closer to 14 meters rather than 13 meters.
This photo joint by me but sincerely grateful to 秋天的雨 who gave me the direction to understand the concept of layer in photoshop.
If you just look at the size of the noses of the two, I don’t think that of J-20’s will be much wider than SU-27’s, the everage height of Chinese pilot can’t 2.5-3m right?
also inlet cross section area can’t be that much different between the two as it’s related to engine airflow right?
No, we built more reference system.
You can estimate height of standard human body’s caudal vertebra
I presumed that man who stood aside the main wheel is about 1.75 meters tall
You can see that diameter of J-20’s main wheel almost reach a man’s loin.
So the result was guided to only way which could taught us to assume the diameter of J-20’s main wheel same as Su-27’s is an excessively conservative measurement.
Further more, you guys should know since the volum of J-20 is distinctly bigger than Su-27/35, if its diameter of main wheel is not enlarged, the intensity pressure the tire got would be too high.
I’d rather insist the 15 meter for wing span, or say more approaching to 15 meters
Did you notice the man is closer to the camera?:rolleyes: