I’m wondering something here; when was the last time you have been in contact with ATC personnel while flying in or over Quebec? Just wondering where you got your “facts” from. Funny how one can have an opinion on a subject and by using a simple statement such as (it’s), “just true” that suddenly your opinion becomes factual, (well at least in your mind).

If you do in fact have some sort of data or incidents, (i.e. time, dates & locations) I’d be happy to forward these reports to Transport Canada.

I work within the aviation industry, as a consultant and hear lots of talk of it being a notorious problem. No fact to back it up directly, and I do think I should say that its not something you hear much of nowadays in Canada, but it wasn’t long ago that it was a regular issue. I was aiming the comment MORE at France itself though to be honest (hence talking about CDG), where even the national airline wanted all communications to be in English because it felt it was safer, but the pilots and controllers wouldn’t allow it.

France and French speaking Canada. Not racist, just true. CDG is notorious, mainly because much of the level of english is non-existent as ATC talk to French pilots in French, how can you be spatially aware of aircraft around you don’t understand who ATC are talking to.

Do you mean in aviation related matters or in general, just out of interest?

Paul

I would say in general! Unless you’ve been to uni then you’ll not know how much fun it is. Of course it could just be Loughborough, hence why Adam and I would have the same opinion…but I know thats not true. The majority of my friends went to uni, in all sorts of locations and courses and they all had 3/4/5 fantastic years. Aviation course optional LOL.

or perhaps just fishing for an upgrade!

On a shuttle flight? The only upgrade would be to the jump seat LOL.

Use this link for basic information from the surveys..

http://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?categoryid=81&pagetype=90&pageid=6554

The actual survey data is not published freely, it has to be bought, and at great expense. What are you wanting to know from it?

Perhaps he was a passenger on the first “BA Shuttle” branded LHR-MAN flight?

The timescale would be about right for that.

I think it is probably something to do with this. A selection of routes in the UK were upgraded to “shuttle” just prior to the arrival of 757s in the early 80s, although the first shuttle route was launched in 1975 between LHR-GLA. I think the upgrade to shuttle brought tridents onto all of the relevent routes as the standard aircraft. I would have thought Shuttle would have been introduced earlier than 1979 on the MAN route, but I may be wrong and so that could resolve the 27-year time scale.

Its difficult because the Airport is co-ordinated, i.e. you have to apply for slots. Airlines therefore have to consider far in advance some potential new routes, but as time draws on they often withdraw from any slots they have been awarded. Often this is why people think a route is being launched, when in truth its just airlines securing slots beofre they make business decisions, because the two do not necessarily go hand in hand.

Thai have identified MAN as a route they’d like to start in the ‘relatively’ near future, but as yet I’ve not heard anything about it being launched.