Faifighter Revenge also features in the book “Ton up Lancs” by Norman Franks. ISBN 978-0-753717-95-0
I’ve always thought of the entire BC offensive from 39/45 as a “Campaign” and the individual “Battles” were battles taking place within that Campaign. Hence a Campaign medal.
Precisely so. Bomber Command was just that, a single Command within the much wider orginisation of the RAF. WWII medals were campaign medals only, i.e they recognised participation in the wider effort of war regardless of the inderviduals role (or rank).
Medals were not awarded to commands. This is true across the services (exception the 1st and 8th Army clasp to the Africa Star)
Only two battle clasps were awarded the BoB on the 39-45 Star and the North Africa 42-43 clasp on the Africa Star. These were singled out as significant turning points as the first defeats Germany suffered.
In my mind there should have been a whole range of Battle Clasps awarded, as this would indicate how and where a serviceman served. I also think it is a crying shame that WWII medals were not named before issue. The great thing about all other British medals is that they carry the recipients details so long after they have died there is a small token of what they did. WWII medals once no longer held by the recipient are meaningless. Given that the proposal of a BC clasp has come so late very few will get to wear it, and after they have gone it will just be a piece of metal with no story attached like the vast majority of WWII medals are now.
Whilst I agree that history has not been kind to Bomber Command I never understood the argument that “of course Bomber Command was shunned as it never got a medal” argument. There was not a Fighter Command medal, nor one for Coastal Command, Transport Command, Training Command etc etc. The Second World War Medals were Campaign medals and awarded for all those that qualified for a particular campaign. The “Battle of Britain” clasp is a battle clasp and harks back to an earlier tradition of awarding battle clasps to medals, only those that took part in the battle got it and was not awarded simply because they happended to be part of Fighter Command. Bomber Command aircrew qualified for either the Aircrew Europe, France and Germany or Italy Star depending on dates of service and country they flew out of. Yes it could be argued that there should have been a “Battle of the Rhur” or similar clasp to acknoledge that for a good proportion of the war it was only Bomber Command that were carriring the fight to Germany. However there are many other battle clasps that could have been awarded, though the powers at the time decided not to (probably a hang over from WWI where battle clasps were not awarded either as there would have been just too many). To say that Bomber Command did not get “their” medal is just plain worng and muddies the issue of how Bomber Command has been treated since the end of the war. Okay rant over, this is good news though š
look forward to watchinf this in its entirity. Never did get to see a Shack in the air which is a real shame. Is there anywhere where one can go inside one?
the FW190 is coming down tonight.
Think the guy has got it right in his description, most likely a Harvard grip due to the lack of bowden brake cable guide as part of the casting on the rear. A lot of these have brake levers added to try and fool people into thinking they are Hurricane as IIRC the stores number AH number was the same even though the casting was slightly different. Still a nice piece. Not sure if the price is a bit optomistic though for a HArvad grip?
A shot in the dark but Iām missing part of the firing button. Any leads?
saw this firning button ring on the bay and though it might interest you,
Indeed very nice. What is the spade grip off of?
Ha! I cannot believe they went to the trouble of recasting the yokes just to omit the brake levers on the later marks!
That’s interesting Tony,
looking at your picture is appears that your yoke is bare metal behind the push buttons? It is a little diffictult to tell. Mine has the dip coat present. I wonder if the yokes were machined and then dip coated covering the holes?
Thank you all for your replies.
So it would seem that a lot were in use without a cap, so thats good one less thing to find! I will look out for a couple of small toggle switches.
I already have a couple of the 5c/898s kicking about so that is easy though when I tried them they seemed a bit loose. Also there does not seem to be any holes to recieve the screws to hold them steady? See picture of my yoke.
no need to apologise, there is no hurry. I am very greatful for your help.
Hi Rich thanks for your reponse. A very good question, short answer is I do not know. So I have taken a picture in hope that you will be able to identify the mark.
Make or have made a little boxplith for it to sit on that can hide the wiring.
Biplane heading west(ish) over St.Leonards on Sea now (13.05). Too high for me to identify type. Any ideas?