Hello Banana Splits:
In post 791 you state in part:
In your posting though, you don’t complete the description of what needs to be done. What I’m wondering is, once you have applied the twine and pushed in some body putty, what do you then cover it all with? Or do you just paint? I agree electrical tape wouldn’t do; the adhesive is inadequate for almost anything.
JDH1976, the same question goes to you.
Thank you both.
When I did mine I had the bare metal grip in slightly worse condition than the one you have. I fettled it to a state that I was happy with, remove corrosion etc. I rubbed it all down and spraye the metal grip black. Then did the twining and body putty. Whenn the whole lot has set. I masked off the gun button I sprayed the grip again with the same black spray paint. I handle it from time to time but not excessively and so far it has stood up very well.
JDH
[ATTACH=CONFIG]233277[/ATTACH] Close up of a grip I covered using the above desribed method
The best way to replicate the plastic covering is by using three core twine and removing one of the cores, then once bound on the grip apply a liberal coating of car body filler to fill in the gaps and even it out a bit. The photo below shows a Typhoon grip I did this with on the right of the photo. In my opinion the string applied is usually much too thick and electrical tape doesn`t look anything like it`s supposed to.
I was about to suggest the same thing! You are not the chap I sent some hemp twine to a few years ago to cover a grip?
JDH
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on the left a British Hispano 20mm case which I am sure is the only aircraft 20mm ammunition used by the British,notice it is a different shape to the oerlikon cases. This one dated 1940 which is early as few aircraft in 1940 were fitted with cannon. On the right a 1940 dated German 20mm. It is similar in shape to the oerlikon cannon case but much shorter. This maybe why the OP had them identified as German by his local museum.
were Oerlikon Cannon ever mounted in British aircraft? I thought we used the hispano suiza 20mm as an aircraft mounted weapon, which had a slightly different shaped cartridge case to the oerlikon.
this is a AH 2040. When I got it it had no brake lever so I added an original. I do not have a parking catch so have left that for now. Mine still has a the brake cable giude tube but I have seen others with it ground off. [ATTACH=CONFIG]232465[/ATTACH]
Thought I had a picture of the back but do not appear to will take one and post later
Thank you Ian, from what I can see is that the spade grip in the illustration does not seem to be fitted with a brake lever, the one I hopefully have has all the holes etc for one, has anybody got any photos of the actual grip to give me some more clearer information.
I am trying to find someone who could shot blast the handle up help me find a AH number, however I still have no idea what to offer for it as I don’t want to insult the seller and lose the chance.Jason
From the photo it looks as the the guide for the brake cable has been ground off. This was done with a lot og Canadian “Hurricane” grips for use on the Harvard. If this is so the AH number will be 2040. AH2040 grips of course were not just used on Hurricanes they also fitted other types such as Battle, Lysander, Swordfish, Whirlwind etc. I have a Canadian Carr Foundry made grip and can send you photos of it if you like?
Hi there
I know it’s 303 sqd, But can anyone throw more light on this pic for me please, pilots names?
Thank you
Easty
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according to this link http://olgasha.deviantart.com/art/The-Kosciuszko-Squadron-302317983
they are from left to right Mirosław Ferić, F/Lt John Kent (Canadian), Bohdan Grzeszczak, Jerzy Radomski, Jan Zumbach, Witold Łokuciewski, Zdzisław Henneberg, Jan Rogowski and Eugeniusz Szaposznikow.
Jb
So is it really a museum? The following is taken from the museum association website. The governing body that sets standards to aspire to for museums in the UK:
“The Museums Association (MA) agreed a definition in 1998. It says: ‘Museums enable people to explore collections for inspiration, learning and enjoyment. They are institutions that collect, safeguard and make accessible artefacts and specimens, which they hold in trust for society.’ This definition includes art galleries with collections of works of art, as well as museums with historical collections of objects.”
So by the above it is not a museum. I would suggest that it is a collection that the public is allowed to look at. An excellent collection granted but not a museum in my mind. All museums sadly are subject to theft, it is the world we live in. Very few after suffering a loss take such draconian actions but then if they are proper museums that are there to encourge learning they would not. However as Hawkinge is not a museum they can do as they please.
I really must go again as it is worth a visit even if you cannot tkae photos.
I see that the T.V giants with all their millions cannot even do some basic Airplane identification.
this time it may not be the journalists to blame. Under the photo is the following:
A Wellington Bomber and crew during the Second World War Credit: Melton Mowbray Wellington Bomber Memorial Appeal
And clicking on the link to the Memorial Appeals Facebook page shows this is indeed the source of the photo. Not everybody is a ‘plane geek and it is natural to assume that a photo of a ‘plane on a page dedicated to it would be the same sort!
Jb
many thanks to James & Duncan. I have found out that it is an access panel that fits on the port fuselage, under the wing fillet.
Andy you are welcome. Pleased it is reunited with other bits of the airframe and that you have been able to identify whereabouts it would have gone.
pink and or blue recce spitfire
Hi Alan,
not very technical but I clamped mole grips to the thickest remaining part and measured the space between the jaws. Comes out as 6 millimeters. Not sure how accurate this would be as regard the orignal thickness. Most of this piece is a lot thinner than that and was when I got it. It is ver fragile across the center where most of the corrosion is. I think I have to mount it to a board if it is to survive for many more years, so I like the suggestion of making a copy then mounting them.
That’s a good idea Piston Power.
what would the proper colour be? As there is no paint left on this. Would it be the same as Hurricane head armour? As I have one of those still with original paint.
Jdh
Thanks ian and c.n
that is good to know, that I was not being duped! I now have to think what to do with it as it is pretty past it. Does not seem right to leave it in the garden though!
Jdh