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  • in reply to: Spitfire stops play – just not cricket! #1122946
    adrian_gray
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    Ok i spotted the Vanguard (but have not passed out with excitement over it)
    What next; someone will want to know who made the B….y screens !!!

    Gamages finest, old thing. Only the best for OXO, what!

    Mark12, that’s the worst joke I’ve heard in some time. If you weren’t supplying the photos, I’d offer you your coat…

    Adrian

    in reply to: Spitfire stops play – just not cricket! #1123217
    adrian_gray
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    We’re slacking!

    Four pages and, although someone has spotted the Standard Vanguard, no-one has yet identified the manufacturer of the fire engine or the tractor (the crane we can be excused – I think this is its first appearance).

    Your starter for one: Tractor – a BMB President. (http://tractors.wikia.com/wiki/BMB)

    Adrian

    in reply to: Spitfire stops play – just not cricket! #1123948
    adrian_gray
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    Sorry, there’s no way I’m believing that that’s a stump! :diablo:

    Seriously – what a great souvenir. How did it get to you – or do all things Spitfire slowly gravitate your way?

    Adrian

    in reply to: Spitfire stops play – just not cricket! #1124002
    adrian_gray
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    Surely the believers already believe the story that the a/c hit the stumps square on and they left 3 parallel dents. Conversely so for the non-believers. Neither camps have a need or desire to pursue the matter further as their minds are already closed on the subject.

    Just to be awkward, I believe that it’s a fascinating possibility, as I do enjoying both Spitfires and cricket. However, I find the apparent evidence of the marks thus far to be more compelling than the suggestion that someone “altered” the wing afterwards – especially because if that is so someone went to extraordinary lengths when they could just have told a journalist “oh yes, it hit the stumps and dented the wing”, and it would have become a “fact” by virtue of publication and repetition. No need to go the extra yard, when a word in the right ear will do it. If you were in the Press Corps, you could start your own rumour! I don’t say that it isn’t possible, because I’m sure it is, but it’s a ridiculous amount of effort to go to to make a point that could be made much more easily.

    Merlin, football and rugby posts and cricket stumps may not be such a good analogy – the former are likely to be at the end of a field (depending on the size of the field, of course) while stumps will be somewhere close to the middle of the longest axis, along which you’d be trying to put your aircraft down.
    (besides, if I keep the pot boiling, this thread will keep going, and it’s good fun!)

    Adrian

    in reply to: Spitfire and Hurricane grounded #1128993
    adrian_gray
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    Mein Gott! Der Britischer Spitfeur piloten ist grounded mit der bozen frollocks! Ve must drop zer explosiche schnowball at vonce!

    Tally ho mein kleine Stukafliegen pals, ve vill kick der Britischer arschloch mit der seasonal traffic disruption vile zey drink zer kokoa.

    Mit Leibe,

    Heinz.
    :diablo:

    in reply to: TV Series Fighter Pilot #1129413
    adrian_gray
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    If you’ll excuse the tangent, I’ve just spotted the thread starter’s screen name – neat, very mysterious. 😀 (Everyone, pretty much, round here should get it, and feel a trifle pink if you don’t).

    Peter, that’s stunning! You in a fourth at the back of the formation? Sorry Tim, not often your pics get upstaged, but I think Peter has succeeded!

    Adrian

    in reply to: Spitfire stops play – just not cricket! #1130991
    adrian_gray
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    Imagine the indentations in the wings if he’d ended up in the cemetery instead of the cricket pitch… 😮

    Adrian

    in reply to: Spitfire stops play – just not cricket! #1141397
    adrian_gray
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    I think we are now reaching the point of imponderables. We’re not going to prove it wasn’t a set of stumps that made the imprints (and they look OK to me) without someone actually measuring them – where the wrong gap might be fairly conclusive – but then you’d have to factor in the angle at which it hit them…

    If the match was over, one umpire might have taken the stumps at his end out, while the other left them for the groundsman? Entirely plausible, if you’ve ever seen a big ground with several pitches like the one depicted in the photo. Alternatively, the aircraft swung once it had hit them, and missed the others, or hit them with the nose, or was sliding at an angle, or turning as it slid…. You get the picture – there are so many possibilities.

    There’s also the point of why would anyone fake it? Maybe the original story of it hitting the stumps was made up for effect by a journalist – but in that case why on earth go to the trouble of putting three dents in the leading edge? Did the story really need the veracity – surely a bent Spitfire sat on the pitch was dramatic enough? And if the dents are fake, what happened to the stumps?

    Of course, we could always work out how likely it is that the stumps could have done that damage – I can get hold of some stumps (substantial pieces of ash, unless it’s the hollow one for the stump cam that TV studios always like to show being smashed), all we need is someone willing to have their Spitfire belted with them. Anyone care to volunteer theirs?

    Adrian

    in reply to: Spitfire stops play – just not cricket! #1142627
    adrian_gray
    Participant

    It’s OK, Pete, I was just stirring gently.:D I don’t suppose anyone knows where it is anyway – a swift Google keeps coming back to this thread, and a review in the Independent of the book.

    Adrian

    in reply to: Spitfire stops play – just not cricket! #1142823
    adrian_gray
    Participant

    Pete, never mind Kenley, what does the OXO cricket ground look like today? :diablo:

    Probably a housing estate…

    Adrian

    in reply to: Spitfire stops play – just not cricket! #1143630
    adrian_gray
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    That si indeed great news, AgCat – I posted as a rhetorical question , because I was sure they’d long since been thrown away, but just thought it added to the original thread.

    That must be the only set of stumps to get into Mark12’s book… unless Andy found another pair at the Stork Hotel?:diablo:

    As you say, Mark12, it does show very well in the photo – do you have a version of the original where the dents can be seen?

    Adrian

    in reply to: Corsair/B17 get a bit close… #1150343
    adrian_gray
    Participant

    But then, I remember a letter in Aeroplane – I think – from someone circa 1995 who was quite adamant that the tail of the DH110 failed first at Farnborough in 1951, because he’d seen it happen, when film showed conclusively that it was the wing. Impressions can mislead (remember the airliner that crashed off the US coast, where a number of witnesses stated that they’d seen a trail of flame going up into the night sky, ergo it must have been hit by a missile?), and I don’t think there is any sensible way of telling from an image that big what the separation was, especially without knowing what the zoom factor (and hence how much the apparent distance was compressed by the telephoto effect) was, or how far they were from the crowd line – I’m guessing US regs put them quite a long way away.

    Without that info, we are all just piddling in the wind. Why don’t we wait and see if it is investigated, and what conclusions the investigation draws? Oh, of course, it’s the internet, and everyone is an expert, and it’s all a conspiracy…

    in reply to: Spitfire Low Pass #1151596
    adrian_gray
    Participant

    Mark12… put the spoon down slowly and no-one gets hurt!:diablo:

    AG

    in reply to: Plug for Andy's Finding the Few book #1152818
    adrian_gray
    Participant

    Funnily enough, what should be advertised on the email from Amazon this morning but…

    (how are we going to get his head through the door, guys?)

    Adrian

    in reply to: First World War from the Air #1153845
    adrian_gray
    Participant

    I think it depends on what you were expecting… It was certainly a program on WW1 from an interesting perspective, but the needle on my WW1 clicheometer jumped to “max” far too often. Then again, I’ve spent a bit of time reading up on WW1, so I’ve heard them all before…

    However, it was most definitely not a program about the film, or the negative collection, which is what it was billed as.

    I would LOVE to see the Biggles Biplane in something better. You should come and fly over Port Meadow as a tribute to the RFC!

    Adrian

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